From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#869: Bug in handling invisible text, and bug in Pmail. Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:39:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 869@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220460497 26676 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2008 16:48:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 869@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: pmr@pajato.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 03 18:49:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KavXV-0004kh-0K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:49:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48051 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KavWV-00061O-PM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KavW6-0005iF-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KavW4-0005dM-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39322 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KavW3-0005cY-KU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:44934) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KavW2-0000Xy-RA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m83GlUPS023298; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:47:31 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m83Gj51t022016; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:45:05 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:45:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 869 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 869-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B869.122045996020101 (code B ref 869); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:45:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 869) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Sep 2008 16:39:20 +0000 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca (chene.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m83GdBts020088 for <869@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:39:13 -0700 Original-Received: from alfajor.home (vpn-132-204-232-121.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.121]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m83GdANS007486; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:39:10 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CB9211C971; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:39:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Paul Michael Reilly's message of "Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:15:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3095=0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:47:37 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:20095 Archived-At: > I don't think it is that simple because "that text" is simply part of > the collection of headers, some of which have been specified to be > invisible as Emacs displays the message, i.e. the X-Coding-System: > header can, according to rfc2822, precede or follow the Date: header. > This, if I understand the issue and your desires properly, makes > setting the buffer boundaries a non-workable solution. I don't know > what the right solution is yet. Worst case, the issue is an > indictment of using invisible text to hide the headers. Yuck. But is that specific to Pmail? I.e. doesn't Rmail use the same texhcnique (or even code) to hide the headers? If Pmail is indeed different, could you explain to me why Pmail had to change this part of the code? It seems unrelated to babyl-vs-mbox. Stefan