From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using Emacs on small-display devices Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:52:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291824682 6769 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 16:11:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:11:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 17:11:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQMbu-0004jR-Mv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:11:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35106 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQMbt-0002v6-NX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:11:17 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe14.iad.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qeGZVLrfld2a/eRmejHVR+IgjH4= Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@UsenetServer.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 21:53:03 UTC Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178490 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75587 Archived-At: > I think the important things are the following abilities: > a) separate the message area and minibuffer; I don't think you can do that nowadays, although you get partway there by defadvicing `message' and then using something like tooltips for the echo area. > b) overlay the message area and modeline (message replaces file name?); You can try to tweak the previous advice so it doesn't use a tooltip but instead it just places the message into a variable that's displayed in the mode-line. Not sure how well that would work. > c) put a "pseudo-menubar" icon on modeline: clicking on it pops up a > popup-equivalent of menubar (i.e., vertical vs horizontal layout); That can be done fairly easily and cleanly (the mode-line already has some menus when you click for example on the major mode name). The "full menu bar, with different layout" is already available on C-mouse-3 by default, so you'd just have to bind it to a mode-line button. > c') put modeline on top, since it is where one expects such icons; Can't do it right without major surgery, but can fake it as mentioned by someone else by (setq-default header-line-format mode-line-format) and (setq-default mode-line-format nil). That will conflict with other uses of the header-line, tho. > d) ability to make a minibuffer overlaid "on top of" modeline, so it > does not take place when not needed. This one seems difficult to do. You may be able to kludge it somehow: - make a frame without minibuffer. - since this requires a minibuffer on some other frame, hide that other frame. - try and hook into the commands that use a minibuffer so that they work by first creating a new window on the current frame and work in that window intead of working in "the minibuffer mini-window". Probably won't be pretty. > e) ability to make emacs full-screen (no border, no taskbar visible); I think we already support that cleanly, tho it depends on cooperation from the WM, of course. > f) ability to switch between two layouts (one as above, one "usual") > by one keypress. That's the easy part, of course. Stefan