From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using Emacs on small-display devices
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:52:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvda5ysn1.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrni05ee0.kk4.nospam-abuse@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu
> I think the important things are the following abilities:
> a) separate the message area and minibuffer;
I don't think you can do that nowadays, although you get partway there
by defadvicing `message' and then using something like tooltips for the
echo area.
> b) overlay the message area and modeline (message replaces file name?);
You can try to tweak the previous advice so it doesn't use a tooltip but
instead it just places the message into a variable that's displayed in
the mode-line. Not sure how well that would work.
> c) put a "pseudo-menubar" icon on modeline: clicking on it pops up a
> popup-equivalent of menubar (i.e., vertical vs horizontal layout);
That can be done fairly easily and cleanly (the mode-line already has
some menus when you click for example on the major mode name).
The "full menu bar, with different layout" is already available on
C-mouse-3 by default, so you'd just have to bind it to a mode-line button.
> c') put modeline on top, since it is where one expects such icons;
Can't do it right without major surgery, but can fake it as mentioned by
someone else by (setq-default header-line-format mode-line-format) and
(setq-default mode-line-format nil). That will conflict with other uses
of the header-line, tho.
> d) ability to make a minibuffer overlaid "on top of" modeline, so it
> does not take place when not needed.
This one seems difficult to do. You may be able to kludge it somehow:
- make a frame without minibuffer.
- since this requires a minibuffer on some other frame, hide that other frame.
- try and hook into the commands that use a minibuffer so that they work
by first creating a new window on the current frame and work in
that window intead of working in "the minibuffer mini-window".
Probably won't be pretty.
> e) ability to make emacs full-screen (no border, no taskbar visible);
I think we already support that cleanly, tho it depends on cooperation
from the WM, of course.
> f) ability to switch between two layouts (one as above, one "usual")
> by one keypress.
That's the easy part, of course.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-30 21:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-30 5:27 Any way to bring minibuffer and modeline to the top? Ken Hori
2010-05-30 9:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-30 11:26 ` Stephen Berman
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1275213278.28424.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-05-30 19:17 ` Using Emacs on small-display devices Ilya Zakharevich
2010-05-30 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-05-31 22:49 ` Ilya Zakharevich
[not found] ` <jwvtypmk0pb.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org>
2010-06-01 23:53 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2010-06-02 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-02 5:48 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2010-06-02 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
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