* AUCTeX Mode
@ 2012-01-26 22:29 Jürgen Fenn
2012-01-27 2:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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From: Jürgen Fenn @ 2012-01-26 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-devel
Hello,
I just would like to ask why AUCTeX mode still isn't a part of Emacs?
Why has the olden TeX mode still not been replaced by AUCTeX?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Jürgen (using AUCTeX since I started using LaTeX some ten years ago in
NTEmacs...)
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* AUCTeX Mode
2012-01-26 22:29 AUCTeX Mode Jürgen Fenn
@ 2012-01-27 2:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-27 4:05 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stephen J. Turnbull @ 2012-01-27 2:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Jürgen Fenn; +Cc: emacs-devel
Jürgen Fenn writes:
> Hello,
>
> I just would like to ask why AUCTeX mode still isn't a part of Emacs?
Because it's not wholly-owned by the FSF, and despite heroic efforts
by one David Kastrup inter alia, AFAIK it's unlikely to achieve that
status any time soon.
For further information, you should ask on AUCTeX channels.
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
2012-01-27 2:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
@ 2012-01-27 4:05 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2012-01-27 4:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Stephen J. Turnbull; +Cc: emacs-devel, Jürgen Fenn
>> I just would like to ask why AUCTeX mode still isn't a part of Emacs?
> Because it's not wholly-owned by the FSF, and despite heroic efforts
> by one David Kastrup inter alia, AFAIK it's unlikely to achieve that
> status any time soon.
Actually, things have changed over time: nowadays it pretty much is,
hence its place in ELPA. We could move it from ELPA to Emacs without
any legal trouble.
Stefan "Using `plain' latex-mode very happily, especially liking
the C-c C-c command"
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
@ 2012-01-27 8:29 Angelo Graziosi
2012-01-29 10:00 ` Angelo Graziosi
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From: Angelo Graziosi @ 2012-01-27 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> We could move it from ELPA to Emacs without
> any legal trouble.
Do it soon, then... :-)
Thanks,
Angelo.
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
2012-01-27 8:29 Angelo Graziosi
@ 2012-01-29 10:00 ` Angelo Graziosi
2012-01-29 11:15 ` Jürgen Fenn
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From: Angelo Graziosi @ 2012-01-29 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs
aquamacs has AUCTeX by default...
Il 27/01/2012 9.29, Angelo Graziosi ha scritto:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
>> We could move it from ELPA to Emacs without
>> any legal trouble.
>
> Do it soon, then... :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Angelo.
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
2012-01-29 10:00 ` Angelo Graziosi
@ 2012-01-29 11:15 ` Jürgen Fenn
2012-01-31 23:08 ` Angelo Graziosi
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From: Jürgen Fenn @ 2012-01-29 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Angelo Graziosi; +Cc: emacs
Am 29. Januar 2012 11:00 schrieb Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>:
> aquamacs has AUCTeX by default...
No point against finally including it in Emacs proper.
Regards,
Jürgen.
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
2012-01-29 11:15 ` Jürgen Fenn
@ 2012-01-31 23:08 ` Angelo Graziosi
2012-02-01 3:10 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Angelo Graziosi @ 2012-01-31 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs; +Cc: Jürgen Fenn
Hi guys...
any news? which is the final decision?
Thanks,
Angelo.
Il 29/01/2012 12.15, Jürgen Fenn ha scritto:
> Am 29. Januar 2012 11:00 schrieb Angelo Graziosi<angelo.graziosi@alice.it>:
>> aquamacs has AUCTeX by default...
>
> No point against finally including it in Emacs proper.
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
2012-01-31 23:08 ` Angelo Graziosi
@ 2012-02-01 3:10 ` Chong Yidong
2012-02-01 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Chong Yidong @ 2012-02-01 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Angelo Graziosi; +Cc: Jürgen Fenn, emacs
Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it> writes:
> Hi guys...
>
> any news? which is the final decision?
We won't do it in Emacs 24.1 for sure, since we are well into pretest.
I have no major objection to including AUCTeX in future Emacs releases,
if the AUCTeX developers are amenable and willing to help do the
integration work (stuff like using define-derived-mode and
completion-at-point).
(Personally, I prefer using tex-mode.el because AUCTeX "feels" a bit too
heavyweight for me, but I can see how AUCTeX's features would be a draw
for most.)
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* Re: AUCTeX Mode
2012-02-01 3:10 ` Chong Yidong
@ 2012-02-01 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2012-02-01 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: Jürgen Fenn, emacs, Angelo Graziosi
>> any news? which is the final decision?
> We won't do it in Emacs 24.1 for sure, since we are well into pretest.
FWIW, I'm not generally happy with keeping large externally-maintained
packages in the Emacs repository, because synchronization is always
a source of trouble. Gnus currently works very well (which has not
always been the case), with a smooth two-way sync done on a very regular
basis, but this requires manual work, i.e. someone dedicated, and noone
knows what will happen when this someone loses interest (which will
happen sooner or later).
I.e. good will and general agreement on both sides (which can usually
be taken for granted, luckily) is often insufficient.
So I think that if we move AUCTeX into the main `emacs/trunk'
repository, that should mean that either there's some well-oiled two-way
sync going on, or the Emacs repository is made to be "the canonical
upstream" for AUCTeX.
Another option is to keep AUCTeX in `emacs/elpa' and include it in the
distributed tarballs. I think such a setup is a good strategy for
several packages. But for that, someone needs to figure out how to do
it (it = include some ELPA packages in the Emacs tarball).
Stefan
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