From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.eieio Subject: Re: Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:07:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sj51fakd.fsf@engster.org> <87k3qcfa4x.fsf@engster.org> <511C39A9.4000403@siege-engine.com> <874nhefvcr.fsf@engster.org> <87y5d6bjym.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364591236 15882 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2013 21:07:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, cedet-eieio@lists.sourceforge.net, "Eric M. Ludlam" To: Vitalie Spinu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 29 22:07:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgWS-00080X-8p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:07:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgW3-0004Jk-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42365) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgVy-0004Im-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:07:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgVv-0003Ej-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:53744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULgVv-0003EQ-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:07:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLSu/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLSu/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="6073605" Original-Received: from 69-196-180-174.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.174]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 Mar 2013 17:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 826D167862; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:07:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87y5d6bjym.fsf@gmail.com> (Vitalie Spinu's message of "Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:04:33 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158446 gmane.emacs.eieio:156 Archived-At: > Could please eieio-oref/eieio-oset be avoided? oref/oset are so often > used that people will start aliasing them anyways. CLOS seems to live just fine with `slot-value', so why not just use `cl-slot-value'? [ BTW, since setf is now part of core Elisp, we don't need oset. ] > How about replacing eieio-, the most awkward prefix in existence, with Actually, I find it easy to type, because of the "ei" repetition and because the "o" is right next to the "i". Stefan