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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing.
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 12:22:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvc11p4po.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131013140931.GC2621@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 13 Oct 2013 14:09:31 +0000")

> :-)  Of course there are workarounds, but that's not the point.  There
> are approximately 198 calls to `newline' in the Emacs Lisp sources, and
> an unknown further number in other Lisp files and users' .emacsen.  Some
> of these calls are going to get broken by the effective change to
> `newline'.

Right.  But the problem is that this is not specific to
electric-indent-mode: newline calls self-insert-command, which runs
expand-abbrev and (since Emacs24) post-self-insert-hook.  Any caller
which only wants a \n and no extra doo-dads should not call `newline'.

electric-indent-mode just makes this problem more apparent.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-13 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-13 10:13 electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 14:09   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 16:22     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-10-13 17:28       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-14 12:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:46           ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-15 18:28         ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 17:12           ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 17:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:58               ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 20:55                 ` chad
2013-10-16 21:07                   ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-18 16:51                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 23:22               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-16 18:34             ` martin rudalics
2013-10-16 19:26               ` Default behaviour of RET Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-16 19:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-16 23:17                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-17  0:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 17:03                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 19:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 20:45                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19  1:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 10:58                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-19 15:07                               ` Drew Adams
2013-10-20 14:55                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-20 22:26                                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-21  2:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-19 22:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 15:00                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-18 16:57                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-13 20:00 ` electric-indent-mode: abolition of `newline' function is not the Right Thing Matthias Meulien
2013-10-14 13:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-14 13:31     ` Matthias Meulien
2013-10-14 16:46       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15 15:54         ` Davis Herring
2013-10-15 20:03         ` Matthias Meulien
2013-10-16  2:44           ` Stefan Monnier

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