From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17446: 24.4.50; What is the situation around `called-interactively-p'? Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 10:15:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tx8z6sp2.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1399644990 25676 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2014 14:16:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 14:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17446@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 09 16:16:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wilb3-0001Ih-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 16:16:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52790 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wilb2-0001xt-Sj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wilas-0001xl-9u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wilak-0001Mu-Rf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39674) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wilak-0001Mq-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wilak-0000h0-5D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 14:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17446.13996449102592 (code B ref 17446); Fri, 09 May 2014 14:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2014 14:15:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WilZt-0000fg-3T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:15:09 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:45351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WilZr-0000fI-0B for 17446@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 10:15:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNMCqwB/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqDTCE X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNMCqwB/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqDTCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="62044235" Original-Received: from 76-10-172-1.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.172.1]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 09 May 2014 10:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2075160203; Fri, 9 May 2014 10:15:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87tx8z6sp2.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Fri, 09 May 2014 14:29:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88820 Archived-At: > but as mentionned in `called-interactively-p' this is not working with > code compiled (I use lexical-binding), I don't know which "mention" you're thinking of here. `called-interactively-p' is supposed to work (more or less as well/poorly) in compiled code. > thus `dont-compile' have been made obsolete. It's not related. > So what to do actually to fix such issues ? Use an additional argument (you can call it `interactive'), provided by the `interactive' spec? > Do you plan to make something better around the terrible > `called-interactively-p' ? We have that already: the extra arg, as suggested in C-h f called-interactively-p. > It seems the only reason `dont-compile' have been made obsolete is > to force people fixing their code to make it working compiled; It's obsolete for the following reasons: - I don't know of any use for it. - I haven't seen a use of it yet. - It seems to only make sense for ugly hacks. > That's ok, but what to do when nothing else is possible ? AFAIK something else is always possible and preferable. But I don't know enough about your problem to know that it's indeed also the case in your situation. Stefan