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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 17453@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17453: Isearch doesn't work properly with Follow Mode.
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 17:46:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvbtc3tbf.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140511204017.GB2759@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 11 May 2014 20:40:17 +0000")

>> Right, I think introducing new functions/hooks to get the
>> beginning/end of the visible part of the buffer, which can then be
>> overridden by follow-mode would probably be part of the solution.
> OK, but it really needs a window list as a parameter, and that needs to
> be stored in a variable somewhere.

I don't understand.  Why would it need to be both in a parameter and in
a variable somewhere?  And isn't it already in some follow-mode
"variable" somewhere?

window-start does not need a window parameter (it does accept such
a parameter, optionally, but that's just to avoid some
with-selected-window), so I don't think such new function would need
such a parameter either.

> I don't really see opportunities for this whose costs don't outweigh
> them.  We can make a variable called `window-start-function', but then
> everybody has to start using

>     (funcall window-start-function w)

I see two options:
- either some/many calls need to be changed to use the new API.
- or follow-mode advises window-start.

And of course, it would be (funcall window-start-function), without the `w'.

> which is a little more obfuscated and confusing than
>     (window-start w)

To make it less obfuscated, we can provide a new function
`viewable-area-start' which does (funcall window-start-function).

> .  The last form is typically going to be much faster when Follow Mode is
> active (see below).

Not sure about "much".  My gut feeling would be rather around "not
noticeably".

>> I don't see why you'd need to pass anything like a window or a list
>> of windows.  All it needs is a region and a point.  The window (or set
>> thereof) would be passed implicitly via selected-window, as usual.
> Because each time the Follow Mode window list

I don't see why.  Isn't/can't the "Follow Mode window list" be kept as
a window-parameter, so you can get it quickly?

> would have to be recalculated, and this is a moderately expensive
> calculation, involving filtering and sorting the windows in a frame
> (`follow-all-followers').  This is no big deal once per command, but
> if done much more often will start to drag.

Indeed, recomputing it for every window-start call would make it
expensive.  I assume that it can be cached such that we only recompute
it when it changes (e.g. using window-configuration-change-hook).

> There is one place where I think it is unavoidable, and that is adding
> lazy highlight overlays.  These are currently given a `window' property
> to restrict their effect to the current window.  In my patch, a
> particular match gets _two_ (or even several) overlays when it spans two
> or more Follow Mode windows.  This can surely not be abstracted away in
> any sensible way.

You might be right.  As mentioned, I think follow-mode is important
enough to warrant special treatment, so we can probably leave a few
hacks in there, in case no useful/sensible abstraction can be invented.

In this case of isearch-vs-followmode, I think the way to find the
useful abstractions is to try and figure out "what would be
useful/useable for other packages than isearch".

Window-specific overlays are not used very often, the candidates seem to be:
- region highlighting.
- rectangular region highlighting.
- compare-w.el.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-11 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09 22:44 bug#17453: Isearch doesn't work properly with Follow Mode Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-10  2:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-11 12:58   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-11 16:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-11 18:18       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-11 19:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-11 20:40           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-05-11 21:46             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-10-29 23:23   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-29 23:23   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 22:35     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-31 23:25       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:41         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-31 23:41         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-01 11:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 11:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:25       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2015-11-01  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2015-10-31 22:35     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-31 23:13     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-31 23:13     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-31 23:32       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:32       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 12:20         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 12:23           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 13:52             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 16:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 18:27                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 19:46                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 20:15                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 21:37                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 20:42                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 20:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-01 22:19                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-01 12:23           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-01 12:20         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-31 23:35     ` Juri Linkov
2015-10-31 23:56       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02  0:14         ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02  3:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02  3:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02  9:28           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 11:53             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 12:14               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 12:14               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 12:39                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 12:39                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 12:35               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 13:10                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 13:10                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 14:18                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 15:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 15:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 16:26                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 16:35                         ` Drew Adams
2015-11-02 19:18                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 19:28                             ` Drew Adams
2015-11-02 23:45                               ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 22:09                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 23:00                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-03  9:18                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 17:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 23:22                       ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-03 12:31                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-03 15:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 16:18                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-03 22:11                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-04  0:28                                 ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-04  9:01                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-04 10:17                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-05 12:38                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-05 17:13                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-07 12:59                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-07 13:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-08 10:32                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-03 16:39                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-03 12:31                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 23:22                       ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 23:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 23:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 14:18                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 15:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 16:09                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 17:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 20:35                       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-03  8:35                       ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]                 ` <<831tc8xv39.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-11-02 16:05                   ` Drew Adams
2015-11-02 12:35               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-02 11:53             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-02 23:33             ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02 23:33             ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-02  0:14         ` Juri Linkov
2015-10-31 23:56       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-31 23:35     ` Juri Linkov
     [not found] ` <handler.17453.B.139967578531952.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2015-12-20 12:59   ` bug#17453: Acknowledgement (Isearch doesn't work properly with Follow Mode.) Alan Mackenzie

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