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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Matthew Plant <maplant2@illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: Emacs as WM
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:59:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvbpuv4yz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1XI5vo-0006Uy-Kt@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 14 Aug 2014 21:03:48 -0400")

>     I could potentially help out; but is there really any work to be
>     done on Rudel?  Seems stable enough.
> Stefan, what's the work you think is needed on Rudel
> to include it standardly in Emacs?

It should use open-network-stream's TLS support, for one.
I found the handling of encryption rather annoying (from the user's view
point), so improvements in this area are important.
It needs some further documentation.
It needs an active maintainer.
IIUC the protocols it support might need to be revisited, since Gobby is
rather dated and Rudel doesn't support more recent protocols.

But FWIW I don't see the benefit of having it included in Emacs:
So far its use has been rather marginal, so while I think it's a neat
package (which is why I went to the trouble of including it in GNU ELPA),
I'm not convinced it deserves to be bundled with Emacs.
It's easy enough to install it via GNU ELPA.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-15  2:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-08 20:35 Emacs as WM Matthew Plant
2014-08-08 20:51 ` John Yates
2014-08-08 23:04   ` Feng Shu
2014-08-11  8:19     ` Samuel El-Borai
2014-08-08 22:49 ` joakim
2014-08-11  1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-11  7:33   ` document sharing (was Re: Emacs as WM) Nic Ferrier
2014-08-11 14:36   ` Emacs as WM Stefan Monnier
2014-08-12  3:15     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-12 13:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13  3:58         ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-13 12:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-13 22:48             ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-14  2:43               ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-15  1:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-15  2:59                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-08-15 17:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-15 19:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-16  2:19                         ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-16  3:06                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-17 14:47                           ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-18  1:07                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-18  2:39                               ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-18 14:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-18 20:13                                   ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-18 20:54                                     ` Glenn Morris
2014-08-19  1:04                                       ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-19  2:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19  4:56                                           ` Ashton Kemerling
2014-08-19  5:58                                           ` Tom
2014-08-19 14:56                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19 15:21                                               ` Tom
2014-08-19 15:39                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-08-19 15:48                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-08-19 13:09                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-20  1:55                                   ` Alexis
2014-08-20  2:16                                   ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-21  2:41                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-21  2:59                                       ` andres.ramirez
2014-08-21  6:15                                         ` Matthew Plant
2014-08-22  9:48                                           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-08-21 20:33                                         ` Josh

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