From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f995fbd: * lisp/server.el (server-name): Add autoload cookie. (Bug#23576) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 08:12:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20160518194708.27363.47377@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20160518194708.86FE0220157@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <834m9u9dis.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3cx8eg2.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvnl894y.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh3583tb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463746525 1740 80.91.229.3 (20 May 2016 12:15:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:15:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 20 14:15:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b3jKV-0002ay-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:14:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54626 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3jKU-0005FI-FO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 08:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3jKO-0005FB-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 08:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3jKJ-0007rl-T1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 08:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3jKJ-0007rX-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 08:14:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b3jJ4-0001LO-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:13:30 +0200 Original-Received: from 45.72.245.134 ([45.72.245.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:13:30 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 45.72.245.134 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 14:13:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.72.245.134 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7ms8xD4EVsjS7omujsAIrZQpFOI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203905 Archived-At: > It's nuisance to load a package before you can set a variable which > should be used on the first use of the package's functionality. It's > easy to forget to load first, and then seeing "No match" or some such > is an annoyance. Right, but that's true of many other variables. It's a known problem that shouldn't be fixed by preloading every variable, but by making completion more clever. > Because the value should be set before the first invocation of > server-start. If you set it after starting the server, it's too late. > That's not something that happens with _all_ the other defcustoms. Maybe not all, but many. Stefan