From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Interoperation between package managers
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:34:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvalvxgb7.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CADB4rJG1_WBojz-=XvxzY-VP=N1iNqZTQDFPtfA-eZ6UciEizg@mail.gmail.com
> Perhaps I should not have said the package.el format is fundamentally
> incompatible with source-based package managers. What I should have
> said is that source-based package managers would gain little by being
> compatible with the package.el format.
I don't know what you mean by "the package.el format". AFAIK there are
2 "formats": one on the web-server and one in ~/.emacs.d/elpa. I agree
that the web-server one wouldn't make much sense for "source-based"
package managers, but the installed-format doesn't seem incompatible
at all.
> In particular, packages that are installed via package.el cannot be
> version-controlled, since the package.el format dictates a flat
> collection of *.el (and other) files, with no version-control
> information attached other than a version number.
Not sure. For example, the way I use elpa.git with package.el is:
git clone .../elpa.git
cd elpa
make
and then add that directory to package-directory-list.
That lets me use packages directly from the local Git repository (which
I find important in order for `C-h f` and such to directly jump to
the real source files that I can edit, with VCS metadata).
> As a corollary, it is impossible to use the package.el format to make
> local modifications to a package in a controlled way, or to contribute
> changes upstream using package.el.
I don't see that.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-10 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-07 0:37 Friendly discussion about (package-initialize) Radon Rosborough
2017-08-07 1:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-07 2:16 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-07 2:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-07 4:12 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-09 20:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-10 3:32 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-10 4:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-10 4:39 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-10 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-10 17:06 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-10 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-10 19:31 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-10 20:00 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-08-11 6:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-11 1:25 ` Nick Helm
2017-08-11 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-09 20:35 ` Interoperation between package managers (was: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)) Stefan Monnier
2017-08-10 3:54 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-10 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-08-11 2:14 ` Interoperation between package managers Radon Rosborough
2017-08-11 22:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-12 17:54 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-12 20:53 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-08-13 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-13 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-13 22:42 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-13 23:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-14 0:29 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-14 8:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-23 19:39 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2017-08-23 20:58 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-24 12:36 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2017-08-24 20:11 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-25 14:31 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2017-08-24 15:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-24 15:46 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2017-08-07 3:20 ` Friendly discussion about (package-initialize) Noam Postavsky
2017-08-07 4:14 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-08-08 0:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-10 20:15 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-08-10 21:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-11 1:14 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-08-11 8:03 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-08-07 6:52 ` Colin Baxter
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