From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ESC vs Meta for shifted keys Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:34:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d0z71985.fsf@gmail.com> <20180410164730086770438@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523450019 23841 195.159.176.226 (11 Apr 2018 12:33:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:33:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 11 14:33:35 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6EwQ-00066T-OH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:33:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51985 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6EyX-0001eP-5f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:35:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6Ey0-0001ds-Sb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6Exv-0007z5-FA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:35:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=35549 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f6Exv-0007yc-7t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6Evm-0005Q0-Uj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:32:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:x2ZR1Mg9ao+OpdUt5g9f5frCXkM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116459 Archived-At: >> The ESC <-> Meta equivalence only holds for characters, not for >> "special keys" such as `left`, indeed. Not sure why. > It seems to work for me. Using C-h c to describe keys in both a > terminal and a graphical emacs shows: > > ESC (translated from ESC M-O D) runs the command backward-word > runs the command left-word In which sense does it work for you? The above shows clearly that `M-left` and `ESC left` aren't treated identically. Stefan