From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Declaring cl.el obsolete
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:55:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvv9vsu24h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5f011dd7-8b78-4a02-90c0-6f3d52fb5690@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:29:44 -0700 (PDT)")
>> > cl-lib was released 6 years ago...
>> > everything it offers is provided by cl-lib or lexical-binding.
> Maybe. When those are available, which they're
> not for some older releases. And not everything:
> aliases to names without `cl-' are missing.
Not sure how that's relevant: I'm not suggesting to drop 'cl' yet.
>> Regarding (2), I pointed out that I don't foresee `cl` disappearing
>> completely any time soon. Instead, it will likely move to GNU ELPA
>> when we finally remove it from Emacs.
[...]
> 1. Some code will continue to use `cl.el', at least
> for compatibility with both older and newer Emacs
> versions.
That's addressed by my point (2) above.
> They are aliased in `cl.el' (see #1). Without
> supporting the aliases, code that's compatible
> with older releases can't use the aliases, and it
> also can't use the `cl-' versions, which don't
> exist.
Again, you can still use 'cl', nothing's changed in this respect.
> 3. Moving `cl.el' to GNU ELPA doesn't help its use
> by older Emacs versions that don't support
> package.el.
These come with 'cl' built-in, so they don't need any GNU ELPA package.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-23 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-23 3:26 Declaring cl.el obsolete Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 4:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-23 10:28 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-23 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-24 14:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-24 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-24 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 8:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-23 8:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-23 17:03 ` Romanos Skiadas
2019-05-24 1:22 ` 조성빈
2019-05-25 20:12 ` Romanos Skiadas
2019-05-23 12:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 15:08 ` Ken Olum
2019-05-23 15:57 ` Sam Steingold
2019-07-23 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-23 16:29 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-23 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-08-06 8:02 ` Stefan Monnier
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