package-quickstart and info:

package-quickstart and info:

[T.V Raman]

While debugging something else with force-load-messages set to t, I
noticed that loading package-quickstart.el loads info -- is there a
good reason for this?

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Thanks,

--Raman
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Thanks,

--Raman
♉ Id: kg:/m/0285kf1  🦮

Re: package-quickstart and info:

[Stefan Monnier]

> While debugging something else with force-load-messages set to t, I
> noticed that loading package-quickstart.el loads info -- is there a
> good reason for this?

IIRC when a package includes an Info manual, we load `info` before
modifying the `Info-directory-list`.  This could be improved to avoid
loading `info`.

The place where this happens in the non-quickstart case is
`package-activate-1` and in `package-quickstart-refresh` you can see
similar code being added to the quickstart file.

IIRC the problem is that depending on whether 
`info-initialize` has already been called or not, we need to add the
directory either to `Info-directory-list` or to
`Info-default-directory-list`.

Patches welcome (and if you need more info about the precise
relationship between those two Info*directory-list vars, I think Eli is
the one who knows all about it).


        Stefan

Re: package-quickstart and info:

[T.V Raman]

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

Given that this is all happening from early-init.el, I suspect info
always gets loaded. 
>> While debugging something else with force-load-messages set to t, I
>> noticed that loading package-quickstart.el loads info -- is there a
>> good reason for this?
>
> IIRC when a package includes an Info manual, we load `info` before
> modifying the `Info-directory-list`.  This could be improved to avoid
> loading `info`.
>
> The place where this happens in the non-quickstart case is
> `package-activate-1` and in `package-quickstart-refresh` you can see
> similar code being added to the quickstart file.
>
> IIRC the problem is that depending on whether 
> `info-initialize` has already been called or not, we need to add the
> directory either to `Info-directory-list` or to
> `Info-default-directory-list`.
>
> Patches welcome (and if you need more info about the precise
> relationship between those two Info*directory-list vars, I think Eli is
> the one who knows all about it).
>
>
>         Stefan
>

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Thanks,

--Raman
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Re: package-quickstart and info:

[Stefan Monnier]

> Given that this is all happening from early-init.el, I suspect info
> always gets loaded. 

Hmm... I don't understand how that relates to what I said,


        Stefan


>>> While debugging something else with force-load-messages set to t, I
>>> noticed that loading package-quickstart.el loads info -- is there a
>>> good reason for this?
>>
>> IIRC when a package includes an Info manual, we load `info` before
>> modifying the `Info-directory-list`.  This could be improved to avoid
>> loading `info`.
>>
>> The place where this happens in the non-quickstart case is
>> `package-activate-1` and in `package-quickstart-refresh` you can see
>> similar code being added to the quickstart file.
>>
>> IIRC the problem is that depending on whether 
>> `info-initialize` has already been called or not, we need to add the
>> directory either to `Info-directory-list` or to
>> `Info-default-directory-list`.
>>
>> Patches welcome (and if you need more info about the precise
>> relationship between those two Info*directory-list vars, I think Eli is
>> the one who knows all about it).
>>
>>
>>         Stefan
>>