From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 0161c9d 1/2: Load all generic-x.el modes unconditionally Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:07:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20210209160550.18823.10795@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210209160551.832FB20AD1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87o8gti2ln.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg65jffx.fsf@gnu.org> <83im71j96z.fsf@gnu.org> <83czx8k3gn.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg64hqzj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28777"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 18:27:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9tH6-0007PG-9z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 18:27:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9tH5-0005nb-Bo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:27:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48388) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9syB-0003AH-Oa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:08:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:54291) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9sy1-0007YW-B7; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:08:03 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0190C8037A; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:07:52 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 77F7180712; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:07:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1612976870; bh=ElgigZVp/DkfofexZ0p5ABvwYGkXeEAh8gaeOuvoSj0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=SvNy6M0yX239f1fS8w7NHWlrm8BSZ7Osfi7pK3N+udE6DxoshepCtjxbXxaLWuJjg Elp3JcvLKm5Pro4P2s7pp58zp5BKX49fkxatJqkhs7RBFXcOKRl1KLdrIfw1VUiUQP DV+VqO8MJU3Mek9GWJ5emXtSDC/UYtCsUa5WbTcG9cKW6XIbhfIy0gUXfbOw2A7z88 zRxEvaJnNmxDE8drXDYizskqYX4FcYEtDhPpQ9uPhfZVpzwzFt6frAhfPOn71s7cxm fIhiR//Z37vlQAKQCsqc1lFy3gfGjCuS7CpQlyhOdxIqb55cKqgse9pjgvyUQN+I25 2jWuNC/vfY8jQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.41.47]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED25212027C; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:07:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 10 Feb 2021 10:44:35 -0600") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -39 X-Spam_score: -4.0 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264305 Archived-At: >>> > What do we tell all those (myself included) who require generic-x in >>> > their init files? >>> I don't know what they need to be told. >>> Can you clarify what broke or risks breaking because of the change? >> I thought it was clear: suddenly those users will have a gazillion >> modes defined they never intended to use or load or even know about. > Could we perhaps take another step back here and ask: why is that a > problem? > To my mind, I only run the risk of getting some unexpected syntax > highlighting (which would actually be welcome in my use). Ah... maybe we should keep the `generic-extras-enable-list` but make it affect only the changes to `auto-mode-alist`. So all modes always get defined (like now) but they're not all automatically activated in some files. Stefan