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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration)
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 09:26:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvv93gjxdo.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf4dnk0z.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:00:07 +1000")

> This would probably be a good candidate for the profiles idea.

FWIW, binding `kill-region` to `C-x` (and `copy-region-as-kill` to
`C-c`) is a hard problem in Emacs.  `cua-mode` tackles it in a pragmatic
way, and it's pretty good at it, but it comes with enough caveats that
I don't think it's a satisfactory solution.

If people are serious about trying to make Emacs easier for newcomers
accustomed to other tools, I think it might be worth developing
a package which starts with those C-<zxcv>` bindings and works its way
to create a complete new set of keybindings.

It's a work comparable to what is done for god-mode, Evil, etc... where
you'll need to have ad-hoc tweaks for many (most?all?) modes.
So it's a long-term maintenance challenge.

I keep wishing someone came up with a clever way for modes to specify
their key-bindings in such a way that Emacs can automatically derive from
it the keys to use "normally" as well as the keys to use in Evil or the
keys to use in god-mode, or the keys to use in this hypothetical new
`really-cua-mode`, ...
So as to finally address this long-term maintenance challenge.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-04 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-03 18:00 [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Drew Adams
2021-09-03 20:06 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-03 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04  2:00   ` Tim Cross
2021-09-04 13:26     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-09-04 13:39       ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 14:25         ` Keybinding styles Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 15:44       ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Yuan Fu
2021-09-04 15:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 15:55           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 16:07           ` Yuan Fu
2021-09-04 16:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06  3:07             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 11:28               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 19:55           ` Keybinding styles Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 20:52             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05  7:17               ` tomas
2021-09-04 16:09         ` Bird
2021-09-04 20:48         ` Keybinding styles (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Tim Cross
2021-09-05 19:03       ` John Yates
2021-09-06  4:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-07  3:16         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 12:02           ` John Yates
2021-09-08  3:29             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 12:15               ` Keybinding styles André A. Gomes
2021-09-08 13:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 20:37                 ` John Yates
2021-09-09  5:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 13:40                     ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-15 14:26                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-15 15:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 20:15                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-15 21:29                         ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-09-16  5:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16  5:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-09  3:09                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 16:05     ` [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Stefan Kangas
2021-09-04  2:20   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 13:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 14:58       ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 16:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 16:40           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-05 19:27   ` John Yates
2021-09-07  3:16     ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 15:31       ` Barry Fishman
2021-09-09  3:07         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 14:07           ` André A. Gomes

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