Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Philip Kaludercic]

Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org> writes:

> branch: externals/auctex
> commit f124fe7d282e0693ce793a8c8b2a675765df63f3
> Author: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
> Commit: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
>
>     Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3
>     
>     * GNU AUCTeX Version 14.0.3 released.
> ---
>  auctex.el          |   2 +-
>  auctex.info        | 204 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------------
>  preview-latex.info |  80 ++++++++++-----------

Why are the .info files tracked in the repository?

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Tassilo Horn]

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

Hi Philip,

>> branch: externals/auctex
>> commit f124fe7d282e0693ce793a8c8b2a675765df63f3
>> Author: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
>> Commit: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
>>
>>     Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3
>>     
>>     * GNU AUCTeX Version 14.0.3 released.
>> ---
>>  auctex.el          |   2 +-
>>  auctex.info        | 204 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------------
>>  preview-latex.info |  80 ++++++++++-----------
>
> Why are the .info files tracked in the repository?

Good question.  Stefan added them in:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
commit 692c9d8fd96614175f499dbc97a927a97099b8dc
Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date:   Fri Sep 13 22:31:19 2013 -0400

    Add auto-generated files we need for elpa.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Stefan, do you remember why?  I guess it's because our complicated build
procedure on our master branch where we have some .el.in and Makefile.in
files where version and date placeholders are being replaced.  So Stefan
added a new GNUMakefile to our externals/auctex branch which updates
committed files which are generated on the master branch.

It's possible that with ELPA as of today, some things could be handled
in a better way but IDK and, well, as long as it works...

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Stefan Monnier]

> Good question.  Stefan added them in:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> commit 692c9d8fd96614175f499dbc97a927a97099b8dc
> Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date:   Fri Sep 13 22:31:19 2013 -0400
>
>     Add auto-generated files we need for elpa.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Stefan, do you remember why?

Because back then, `elpa.gnu.org` was not able to generate them.
Nowadays, we could use

    :doc "doc/auctex.texi"

in the spec instead.

> I guess it's because our complicated build
> procedure on our master branch where we have some .el.in and Makefile.in
> files where version and date placeholders are being replaced.  So Stefan
> added a new GNUMakefile to our externals/auctex branch which updates
> committed files which are generated on the master branch.

Nowadays we could also let `elpa.gnu.org` run this make target when
generating the tarball with

    :make ("all")

The current spec says :

    (auctex		:url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/auctex.git"
     ;; AUCTeX is currently sync'd manually and elpa.git isn't quite
     ;; a mirror :-(
     :manual-sync t)

and indeed using the above additions we should be able to make the sync
be automatic rather than manual.


        Stefan

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Tassilo Horn]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Because back then, `elpa.gnu.org` was not able to generate them.
> Nowadays, we could use
>
>     :doc "doc/auctex.texi"
>
> in the spec instead.

Can :doc be a list?  Because there's also preview-latex.texi.

>> I guess it's because our complicated build procedure on our master
>> branch where we have some .el.in and Makefile.in files where version
>> and date placeholders are being replaced.  So Stefan added a new
>> GNUMakefile to our externals/auctex branch which updates committed
>> files which are generated on the master branch.
>
> Nowadays we could also let `elpa.gnu.org` run this make target when
> generating the tarball with
>
>     :make ("all")
>
> The current spec says :
>
>     (auctex		:url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/auctex.git"
>      ;; AUCTeX is currently sync'd manually and elpa.git isn't quite
>      ;; a mirror :-(
>      :manual-sync t)
>
> and indeed using the above additions we should be able to make the
> sync be automatic rather than manual.

Does that mean the ELPA devel package could be built from our master
branch always reflecting that and the normal package, too, after version
bumps?  Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and
somehow setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?

That would be absolutely awesome. :-)

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Because back then, `elpa.gnu.org` was not able to generate them.
>> Nowadays, we could use
>>
>>     :doc "doc/auctex.texi"
>>
>> in the spec instead.
>
> Can :doc be a list?  Because there's also preview-latex.texi.

Yes.

> Does that mean the ELPA devel package could be built from our master
> branch always reflecting that and the normal package, too, after version
> bumps?

Almost.

> Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and somehow
> setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?

That's right: we still need the `auctex.el` file to be in Git and to
contain the `Version:` thingy.


        Stefan

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and somehow
>> setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?
>
> That's right: we still need the `auctex.el` file to be in Git and to
> contain the `Version:` thingy.

Tho, it could actually be another file (e.g. for Tramp we have
`:main-file "trampver.el"`).


        Stefan

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Philip Kaludercic]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> Because back then, `elpa.gnu.org` was not able to generate them.
>>> Nowadays, we could use
>>>
>>>     :doc "doc/auctex.texi"
>>>
>>> in the spec instead.
>>
>> Can :doc be a list?  Because there's also preview-latex.texi.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Does that mean the ELPA devel package could be built from our master
>> branch always reflecting that and the normal package, too, after version
>> bumps?
>
> Almost.
>
>> Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and somehow
>> setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?
>
> That's right: we still need the `auctex.el` file to be in Git and to
> contain the `Version:` thingy.

Another idea might be to have a separate :main-file for versioning, if
there is an advantage in building auctex.el while preparing the package.

>
>         Stefan

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Philip Kaludercic]

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>>>> Because back then, `elpa.gnu.org` was not able to generate them.
>>>> Nowadays, we could use
>>>>
>>>>     :doc "doc/auctex.texi"
>>>>
>>>> in the spec instead.
>>>
>>> Can :doc be a list?  Because there's also preview-latex.texi.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> Does that mean the ELPA devel package could be built from our master
>>> branch always reflecting that and the normal package, too, after version
>>> bumps?
>>
>> Almost.
>>
>>> Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and somehow
>>> setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?
>>
>> That's right: we still need the `auctex.el` file to be in Git and to
>> contain the `Version:` thingy.
>
> Another idea might be to have a separate :main-file for versioning, if
> there is an advantage in building auctex.el while preparing the package.

Never mind this, I missed Stefan's message.

>>
>>         Stefan

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and somehow
>>> setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?
>>
>> That's right: we still need the `auctex.el` file to be in Git and to
>> contain the `Version:` thingy.
>
> Tho, it could actually be another file (e.g. for Tramp we have
> `:main-file "trampver.el"`).

>
>         Stefan

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Stefan Monnier]

> Never mind this, I missed Stefan's message.

:-)

BTW, you can try this at home:

    git clone --single-branch https://git.sv.gnu.org/git/emacs/elpa.git
    cd elpa
    make                  # Setup the infrastructure
    make packages/auctex  # Create a worktree of the package
    make build/auctex     # Build the tarballs into archive(-devel)/
    <tweak packages/auctex>
    make build/auctex     # check archive-devel/auctex.tar
    <tweak packages/auctex>
    make build/auctex     # check archive-devel/auctex.tar
    [...]

Do note that `build/auctex` doesn't just use the current contents of
`packages/auctex`, but its current commit instead (it does
a git-stash-push/pop).

You can also try `make auctex.tar` (which places the file in CWD) which
IIRC does use the current contents of the directory without messing with
Git at all.


        Stefan

Re: [elpa] externals/auctex f124fe7d28: Release GNU AUCTeX 14.0.3

[Tassilo Horn]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Well, at least in theory after adding a Version header and somehow
>> setting the version when generating auctex.el from auctex.el.in?
>
> That's right: we still need the `auctex.el` file to be in Git and to
> contain the `Version:` thingy.

Ah, right, hen-and-egg problem here.  But we might use another file as
you've said.

Anyway, I think we'll stick to the status quo until auctex 14 has
matured a bit and then we'll try to get that working.

Thanks,
Tassilo