From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abbrev should preserve case Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200706201948.06271.andreas.roehler@online.de> <4nvedib77v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182452569 1468 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2007 19:02:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , andreas.roehler@online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 21 21:02:47 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1Rva-0007OH-W8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:02:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1Rva-0005Nw-N7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1RvU-0005LM-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1RvR-0005Ig-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1RvR-0005IX-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:37 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts20.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.74] helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1RvP-0001tg-D7; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:35 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.53.192.71]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070621190234.VNDB1637.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 151A6836D; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:02:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu\, 21 Jun 2007 13\:32\:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73548 Archived-At: > The handling of case in abbrevs is designed to work well > for abbreviations for words and phrases used in text. > It is the right thing. Agreed. But it has since been (ab)used for things like skeletons in programming modes where typing "case SPC" would expand to case in *) ;; esac for those kinds of uses, the capitalization footwork of abbrev.el is rather harmful. Stefan