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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Interactive hat.
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:18:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtz5h4m1r.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buohc1hx5ca.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:30:13 +0900")

>> How is an external library writer going to use the interactive "^"?
>> Assuming that the library should also work under XEmacs and Emacs 22,
>> just using the "^" won't work; an interactive string with "^" throws an
>> error in Emacs 22.
> Isn't that a pretty basic problem with _any_ extension to interactive?

Indeed.

> Do you think `interactive' should never be extended?

Indeed no.

> In this case, I think the right solution would be to simply add another,
> possibly clunkier method for commands to indicate they want to enable
> shift-selection behavior.

It needs to be easy to translate any `interactive' string into an
`interactive' Elisp expression.  Currently, that's not always the case,
and I think it's a problem that needs to be solved.
If you start with an `interactive' string and later need to add an
argument which needs fancier treatment, you sometimes end up struggling
to find an equivalent Elisp form for each of your arguments.

Yes, this is indeed a problem.  Of course, not specific to "^".

If someone were to rewrite `call-interactive' such that it comes with
a alist associating each char-code to the corresponding Elisp
expression, that would be very helpful (and we could then even provide
a command in emacs-lisp-mode to automatically turn a (interactive "foo")
into (interactive (blabla))).


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-25 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090324154937.GB4657@muc.de>
2009-03-23 22:37 ` bug#2760: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-24  0:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-24 13:52     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25  1:38       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-25 10:16         ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 10:30           ` Interactive hat Miles Bader
2009-03-25 10:53             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 11:03               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-25 14:24                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 11:29                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 14:59               ` Miles Bader
2009-03-26 11:51                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 12:14                   ` David Kastrup
2009-03-26 12:51                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 13:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 14:33                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 16:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 16:45                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 18:57                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-29  0:44                             ` Kim F. Storm
2009-03-29  1:40                               ` Miles Bader
2009-03-29  2:02                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-26 14:47                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-26 15:23                       ` Miles Bader
2009-03-26 17:43                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-25 16:18             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-03-25 11:26           ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Juanma Barranquero
2009-03-25 13:20             ` Interactive hat Chong Yidong
2009-03-25 14:19             ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 16:41               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-03-26 12:44                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 13:50                   ` Interactive hat Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 15:27                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 17:09                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 19:06                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 21:18                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 22:32                             ` Johan Bockgård
2009-03-26 23:34                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 23:32                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-27  2:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-27 11:15                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 19:32                                 ` Interactive hat. (Patch) Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 20:47                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-14 20:15                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-14 20:47                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                     ` <20090423205030.GA2723@muc.de>
2009-04-24 13:38                                       ` Interactive hat. (Patch V2) Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-27 11:46                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-27 18:39                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 22:33                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-29  7:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-29 11:36                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-29 13:13                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-07 19:14                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28  0:14                                           ` Karl Berry
2009-04-28  1:12                                             ` Miles Bader
2009-04-28  7:55                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 21:44                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-28 21:39                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 22:50                                   ` Interactive hat. (Patch) Miles Bader
2009-04-14 20:22                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-14 20:49                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-15  8:29                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-24 15:55   ` bug#2760: marked as done (CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode.) Emacs bug Tracking System
2009-03-27  0:20 Interactive hat naesten

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