From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Printing Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:15:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5f0660120903281352v5d7ab83cy44fcff3cbf4581cb@mail.gmail.com> <20090402100822.GC28589@tomas> <20090402115119.GA29256@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238688948 27194 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2009 16:15:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 18:17:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LpPbE-0005jI-40 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:17:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54041 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LpPZq-0006rU-AP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:15:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LpPZj-0006pp-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LpPZf-0006oF-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39628 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LpPZf-0006oC-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:15:27 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:9621 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LpPZc-0000ZF-QW; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:15:24 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoFALOB1EnO+Lq2/2dsb2JhbACBUs8kg3wGhQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,314,1235970000"; d="scan'208";a="36101638" Original-Received: from 206-248-186-182.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.186.182]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 02 Apr 2009 12:15:23 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7566DB4108; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:15:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:00:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110010 Archived-At: >>> Writing a pdf-file would of course allow printing on w32 more simple >>> too - if you install some software to read and print pdf. >> Considering that I'd rather not encourage people to install proprietary >> software, is it really significantly easier to install support for >> printing PDF than support for printing Postscript (in Windows)? > Yes, I think so since most people already have a viewer for PDF > installed. And that viewer can be used to print. AFAIK, Windows comes neither with a Postscript viewer/printer nor with a PDF viewer/printer. So for ps-print.el we have to ask people to install Ghostscript on such systems. Assuming we had pdf-print.el, which other software would we tell people to install? As mentioned non-proprietary options are unacceptable. This said, maybe ps-print.el could be changed so it can run `gs' directly (under Windows); this would mean that the user only needs to install Ghostscript without configuring something like redmon and creating a special postscript virtual printer. Stefan