From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4260: 23.1.50; tramp is loading unnecessarily Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:02:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251350884 4012 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2009 05:28:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Peter Dyballa To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 07:27:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MgXWe-0001Zt-DF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:27:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46099 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgXWd-00069x-Q0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgXVp-0005Vr-5o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgXVj-0005NS-8g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45736 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgXVj-0005Mv-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:60301) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgXVi-00084U-Co for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7R5QreZ028444; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:26:53 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7R5A7Ii026182; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:10:07 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:10:07 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:10:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4260 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4260-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4260.125134934824262 (code B ref 4260); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:10:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4260) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Aug 2009 05:02:28 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7R52Q9d024255 for <4260@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:02:27 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8EADGwlUpFpYuS/2dsb2JhbACBU9ZKhBoFh2M X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,283,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="44279904" Original-Received: from 69-165-139-146.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.139.146]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2009 01:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 078F1B40F3; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:02:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Michael Albinus's message of "Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:55:57 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:27:03 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:30603 Archived-At: > Because partial completion is enabled by default in Emacs 23. It wasn't > in Emacs 22. As I said, I think the current behavior is wrong and should be fixed. "check if partial-completion is enabled" was a heuristic which worked in Emacs-23. It's not The Right Thing. So we shouldn't take it as holy word and stick to it. Instead we should revisit it. The thing that does matter is that "emacs -Q" should not autoload Tramp when you just do C-x C-f /s TAB Stefan