From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: interactive-p and called-interactively-p
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtyzn4k5x.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1MiFFx-0001L0-1q@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:45 -0400")
> `interactive-p' has the advantage that it existed for a *very*
> long time, whereas called-interactively-p is a new comer.
> It has existed only 5 years,
Yes, and during this time, compatibility to Emacs-21 and XEmacs was
still fairly important for unbundled packages, so it hasn't seen much
use outside of Emacs itself.
> but I think the important point is that its name fits its meaning.
> The name interactive-p does not correspond to its meaning, and users
> very often guess wrong about what it does.
This is clearly true, but while confusion has been common, it hasn't
been an actual problem either. And in any case, as I mentioned, we
should rather encourage programmers to stay avoid from both of
those functions.
>> Perhaps we should make the name `interactive-p' obsolete and make
>> a new name, `from-user-input-p'. This will eliminate the
>> confusion completely.
> Even such a new name isn't very clear. The only clear solution is to
> use an additional argument passed from the interactive spec.
> In what sense is that the only clear solution? I do not follow you here.
Because it makes it clear that you're distinguishing different notions
of "interactivity" (one of them being just "called via
call-interactively", the other being "directly called from the keyboard
rather than via a macro or some batch invocation").
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-31 23:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-15 23:00 interactive-p and called-interactively-p Drew Adams
2009-08-16 5:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-16 13:29 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-16 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-16 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-16 21:23 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-16 22:40 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-17 5:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-18 4:57 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-18 7:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-29 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-31 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 23:56 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-09-01 1:58 ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-01 5:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-01 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-03 13:48 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-03 14:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-03 21:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-04 1:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-04 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-04 3:04 ` Glenn Morris
2009-09-04 4:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-03 16:27 MON KEY
2004-12-02 2:16 Luc Teirlinck
2004-12-03 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
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