From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: Beeping Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:25:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <87y6lxdvnl.fsf@mandingo.thematica.it> <87zl6dgjt1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874oolarvt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aay91k9j.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259351356 2252 80.91.229.12 (27 Nov 2009 19:49:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Giuseppe Scrivano , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Per =?UTF-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 20:49:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NE6oW-0003H1-9K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:49:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47628 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE6oV-0007vM-TO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE6mx-0006No-Kq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:47:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE6ms-0006J8-Lo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60397 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE6ms-0006IL-9F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:38842) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NE6mr-0008Uo-O8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nARJlMc4025743; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:47:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nARJZ479024685; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:35:04 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:35:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1305.125934991224099 (code B ref 1305); Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:35:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Nov 2009 19:25:12 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (pruche.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.22]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nARJP8ET024041 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:25:10 -0800 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nARJP6iE032334; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:25:06 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1B7713A1BA; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:25:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:48:07 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3416=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:47:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32993 Archived-At: > As an example of what I mean look at what windmove-left does when > there is no window to the left. It then raises an error. > If debug-on-error is true I then get a chance to debug my behaviour. I > am not sure that makes sense. That's a problem between windmove and debug-ignored-errors. BTW, I'd welcome a patch that introduces a new error `user-error' and then changes calls to `error' where the error message is in debug-ignored-errors to signal `user-error' instead. > The behaviour is different, but I think it should be similar to what > scroll-down/up does when it reaches the border. I think there should > be a unified behaviour. Making the visual bell default seems good, but > why not implement it as `command-level'? That's already what "an error that's in debug-ignored-errors" does. Stefan