From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:01:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87tymlv41y.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <8D701A9E7D444011925CB68BF0883D2B@us.oracle.com> <87hbikdss4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87iq2yzvpo.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <15A1E47393A44678811B41A238C09E73@us.oracle.com> <87wrrd3qot.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4C77AB35.4010803@gnu.org> <87eidjj3zk.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282953729 17049 80.91.229.12 (28 Aug 2010 00:02:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 02:02:08 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Op8s3-0003B0-9F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:02:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57066 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Op8s2-0005ci-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55258 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Op8ru-0005cO-WD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Op8rp-0003QX-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.13]:21698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Op8rp-0003QS-QX; Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2216.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 361FE7000084; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (97.92.71-86.rev.gaoland.net [86.71.92.97]) by msfrf2216.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0D6307000082; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:01:53 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20100828000153549.0D6307000082@msfrf2216.sfr.fr Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6CD2AAE3C6; Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:01:52 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87eidjj3zk.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:38:07 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129326 Archived-At: >> IIRC, last time we discussed this, we decided that the latter approach >> would be best. We also considered adopting the GTK approach and replacing >> _ with ~ on windows (and whatever is appropriate on Mac), but that leaves >> lucid and text menus needing to remove the character all the time. > It seems I missed this decision in this overlong thread. So have I. > What would be a good scheme for values of `key-accel'? > It could either specify the absolute position of the accelerator > in the menu label string (an integer value like `:key-accel 6'), > or the accelerator itself as a character (like `:key-accel ?A'). Neither sounds good when you think of a possible future addition of gettext. Stefan