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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: 5950@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#5950: defvaralias after defvar should be warned in runtime
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:27:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtylqhwi7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3keicu1h3v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:51:00 -0400")

>> I think the byte-hunk-handler should be put to `defvaralias' rather than
>> `define-obsolete-variable-alias'. `defvaralias' is a primitive function
>> which causes the problem in `define-obsolete-variable-alias' macro.
> The issue _is_ with defvaralias, but it's only a problem for user
> options, things that might be set in .emacs before the associated
> alias definition is evaluated.  It's hard to see why there should be
> non-obsolete aliases to user options, it just causes confusion.  I
> think there would be false positives if the warning was associated
> with defvaralias, which is mostly used with non-user-options, I would
> think.

> The last time a similar issue came up, Stefan preferred that only
> define-obsolete-variable-alias be changed; see

Well, in this case I'd rather check defvaralias, since the problem is
there: if (defvaralias 'foo 'bar) is executed after both `foo' and `bar'
have been given values, then it will necessarily have to drop one of the
two, which is the source of the problem.

Changing defvaralias to try and be more clever would definitely
be wrong.  But changing it to output a warning about the problematic
situation would be OK and changing the byte-compiler to output a warning
in cases that make such a situation more likely is also perfectly good.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-16  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-15  5:13 bug#5950: defvaralias after defvar should be warned in runtime IRIE Shinsuke
2010-09-15 20:16 ` Glenn Morris
2010-09-16  0:44   ` IRIE Shinsuke
2010-09-16  3:51     ` Glenn Morris
2010-09-16  9:27       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-05-26 16:52         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-26 19:46           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-26 23:54           ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-12 11:48             ` Noam Postavsky
     [not found]               ` <cb864996-c592-5507-f0c6-be07d17f13ee@gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <jwvlg9pkbip.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2018-08-02 13:08                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-02 13:28                     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-08-02 14:37                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-02 17:03                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-03  3:33                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-03 20:23                             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-08-03 21:00                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-03 22:09                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-08-03 22:24                                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-08-03 21:58                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-02  2:14 ` Noam Postavsky

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