From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Return Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:27:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mxojwu15.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4jnweng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aakilned.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291667239 31152 80.91.229.12 (6 Dec 2010 20:27:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , MON KEY , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 06 21:27:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPheT-0003ZW-Ih for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:27:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPheS-0005DI-Dl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:27:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38787 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPheL-0005Be-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:27:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPheI-0004KR-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:27:04 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:32862 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPheI-0004KL-RW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:27:02 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicIAKfV/ExFxLmf/2dsb2JhbACiMIELcr8EhUkEhF+NfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,307,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84693472" Original-Received: from 69-196-185-159.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.185.159]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2010 15:27:01 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A0796661BF; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:27:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87aakilned.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:19:38 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133472 Archived-At: >> Actually, I'm considering to disallow non-top-level defuns in >> lexical-scope mode, just because it's a good opportunity to introduce >> such "breakage" and because non-top-level defuns are bugs in 99% of >> the cases (in Elisp). > There are quite a number of packages, many external to Emacs, that use > non-top-level defuns for compatibility functions. But as long as they don't use lexical-scope it's a non-issue. Stefan