From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11381: 23.3; isearch-search-and-update issue? Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:34:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4F9DC154.2000605@groveronline.com> <87ipgggtmw.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878vhcc4nl.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87vcjxdt5p.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87vcjvwtxa.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87r4ufhfmi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878vge3ri7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83pq9o1f9s.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338233757 6120 80.91.229.3 (28 May 2012 19:35:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11381@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 28 21:35:55 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jJ-00039i-Ju for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:35:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36272 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jJ-0006YU-B3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jF-0006YO-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:35:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jE-0001N7-3R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:35:45 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jD-0001N3-Jm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:35:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5kT-0006Gx-Tx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:37:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11381 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11381-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11381.133823377724055 (code B ref 11381); Mon, 28 May 2012 19:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11381) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2012 19:36:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jk-0006Fw-Tw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:46149) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5jQ-0006FC-F3 for 11381@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:36:15 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4SJYasA023258; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DF544B4191; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:34:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83pq9o1f9s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 28 May 2012 18:44:47 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4235=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4235> : streams <761728> : uri <1120538> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60430 Archived-At: >> > Comparing two functions can be avoided by using properties >> > on function symbols like in the patch below. >> It's not perfect, but yes, it's much better. > Actually, I very much dislike this "feature" of putting properties on > function symbols, or at least the way we use it. Agreed, hence the "not perfect". > I say, either we start documenting these properties in the doc strings > and in the manual, or we should deprecate and discourage the practice > of using them. For delsel, I think the answer is to not use properties (which is why I insisted we use another mechanism for the shift-select and delete-active-region thingies). For the case at hand, it's more difficult to fold the functionality directly into the function (that would make us turn those functions into object-like functions, along the lines of what we do for completion tables). And, I agree that the docstring of isearch-search-fun-function should then clearly document what the `isearch-message-prefix' means. Stefan