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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: 13602@debbugs.gnu.org, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#13602: 24.3.50; remove bindings for `icomplete-minibuffer-map' - make a separate mode
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:17:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtxpocjcw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9rgo959.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:50:10 +0200")

> Does this mean that other users of `icomplete-mode' like me disabled
> `icomplete-mode' in their .emacs after it began overriding Isearch keys,
> so this feature remained untested and the bug remained unnoticed
> for the long time (2 months)?

I don't think so: the commands work(ed) in "most" cases.

> I won't be surprised if this is the real reason, because traditional
> Isearch C-s and C-r is useful in the minibuffer.

I suspect most users of icomplete who didn't follow the emacs-devel list
just didn't notice the change because they never/rarely use C-s and C-r in
the minibuffer.

> Let's face the root of the problem: abusing C-s and C-r keys in ido was
> a poor choice in the first place that paved the road to future conflicts.

I don't know if it was a poor choice, given that IDO tends to move away
from the idea that the minibuffer is just a normal buffer with normal
editing commands.

> I see that ido.el mentions the right and left arrow keys.
> Could they be used with some modifiers?

I think it's a good idea to try and use something else than C-s C-r,
since admittedly they collide with existing usage.  But the problem is
indeed to find other bindings.

We could use arrows with modifiers: by default, M-left and C-left do the
same thing, so we could use either C-left/C-right or M-left/M-right.

Another option that stays closer to IDO (and to home row) is M-s and M-r
(M-r's move-to-window-line-top-bottom is fairly useless in the
minibuffer, but M-s is normally a prefix key for search commands, so
it's not ideal, tho it's less severe than overriding C-s).


        Stefan





  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-07 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-31 19:41 bug#13602: 24.3.50; remove bindings for `icomplete-minibuffer-map' - make a separate mode Drew Adams
2013-02-04 10:27 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-04 16:02   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-04 16:36     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-04 17:34       ` Drew Adams
2013-02-04 11:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-02-04 16:16   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-04 22:04     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-02-04 23:33       ` Drew Adams
2013-02-04 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-04 16:22   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-04 16:43     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-04 17:40       ` Drew Adams
2013-02-05  2:35         ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-05  4:29           ` Drew Adams
2013-02-05 23:19             ` Juri Linkov
2013-02-06  3:42               ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-06 10:24                 ` Juri Linkov
2013-02-06 13:31                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-06 15:27                     ` Drew Adams
2013-02-06 15:42               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-06 15:49                 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-06 16:02                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-06 23:45                   ` Juri Linkov
2013-02-07  3:51                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-07  7:50                       ` Juri Linkov
2013-02-07 10:24                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-08  7:55                           ` Juri Linkov
2013-02-08 16:55                             ` Drew Adams
2013-02-07 14:17                         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-02-07 15:45                           ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-07 16:50                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-10  4:15                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-07 21:32                           ` Drew Adams
2013-02-08  7:59                           ` Juri Linkov
2013-02-08 15:40                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-08 17:00                               ` Drew Adams
2013-02-08 17:11                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-08 17:28                                   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-13 14:42                                   ` Jambunathan K
2016-04-28 22:25                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-04-29 16:05                                       ` Drew Adams

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