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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs for Windows
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:33:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtx3b7s3w.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83vbns9d5j.fsf@gnu.org

> Like I said, I'm not aware of such a beast.  Some projects have their
> own facilities, specific to the project (Cygwin and MinGW each have
> such thing), but they are incompatible and cannot read each other's
> metadata.  To say nothing of the fact that they are only good for
> ports that are offered by the respective projects, and so are useless
> for 3rd-party ports.

Incompatibility between systems is mostly unavoidable.
And "they only support the package they offer" is also
largely unavoidable.

I'm surprised nobody has tried to solve this problem: contact all the
people who work(ed) on related projects (mingw, gnuwin32, chocolatey,
wpkg, you name it; cygwin is probably out because it works within
a slightly different domain and is already "the name of the game" within
its own domain) and try to come up with a plan to consolidate them into
a single system.

I mean, distribution via zip files is so painful for the user who has to
figure out on his own how to upgrade from one version to another, plus
all the dependencies, etc...  How do people live with that?

Oh well, I guess it's good: it motivates users to try another OS,


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-10 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-09  9:43 Emacs for Windows Alexander Shukaev
2014-10-09 18:07 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-10-09 22:37 ` E Sabof
2014-10-10  1:07   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-10-10  2:49     ` E Sabof
2014-10-10  3:13       ` John Mastro
2014-10-10  3:32       ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-10  6:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10  6:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 12:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 12:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 13:48         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 14:16           ` David Engster
2014-10-10 15:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 16:04               ` David Engster
2014-10-10 16:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 16:20                   ` David Engster
2014-10-10 16:23                     ` David Engster
2014-10-10 18:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 19:13                         ` David Engster
2014-10-10 20:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-19 16:40                 ` Noam Postavsky
2014-10-11 15:46               ` Robert Thorpe
2014-10-11 16:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:22                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 20:14                     ` Robert Thorpe
2014-10-10 15:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 17:33             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-10-10 18:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 18:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 19:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 13:26                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-11 14:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 14:44                         ` David Engster
2014-10-11 15:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:25                             ` David Engster
2014-10-11 16:41                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 16:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 17:19                                 ` David Engster
2014-10-11 17:38                                   ` David Engster
2014-10-11 17:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 17:47                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 17:58                                     ` David Engster
2014-10-10 15:44           ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-10 15:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 18:34             ` Grant Rettke
2014-10-10 18:46             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-10-11 15:38           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 15:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:00               ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 16:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:18                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 16:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 19:40                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-12  6:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12 11:53                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-12  9:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12 12:13                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-12 13:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 20:38     ` E Sabof
2014-10-10 23:57       ` John Mastro
2014-10-11  2:05         ` E Sabof
2014-10-11  6:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  9:09         ` E Sabof
     [not found]     ` <mailman.10884.1412944630.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-11 14:55       ` Mirko
2014-10-10  2:08 ` Grant Rettke
2014-10-21 19:38 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
     [not found] <mailman.10793.1412858774.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-15  4:52 ` Bug Dout
2014-10-15 13:23 ` tux-
     [not found]   ` <CAKu-7Wzt6kD83or9xcSgSXi3Lqsc81fpvjq6RLUGZri4oZPT1Q@mail.gmail.com>
2014-10-15 15:23     ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-10-15 15:50       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-15 15:52         ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-10-15 21:54       ` John Mastro
     [not found]     ` <mailman.11194.1413386616.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-21 16:26       ` Jason Rumney
2014-10-21 17:58         ` John Mastro
2014-11-05 23:57           ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2014-11-06  1:32             ` John Mastro
2014-11-06  1:36               ` John Mastro
2014-11-20  5:30                 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.14138.1416461463.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 17:27                   ` Bug Dout
2014-11-30 20:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-06  1:56               ` Sampath Weerasinghe

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