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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:20:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtx25hczk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83egt9n2qd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:03:54 +0200")

> Sacrificing user convenience of installing a package to make our lives
> as developers easier sounds backwards to me.  So, from my POV, the
> ideal should be "no build stage", and the only files to be generated
> during the installation should be those that Emacs can do itself, as
> part of the fetching and installation.

There are 2 build stages: one when turning an elpa.git directory and
turning it into a tarball (done by elpa.gnu.org, not by users) and one
done by Emacs on the user's machine to compile the .el and generate
the autoloads.

So, the build normally done on the user's machine currently doesn't
require any external tools, and we aim to keep it this way
whenever possible.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-11 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 13:45 package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 14:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-07 19:50   ` joakim
2014-11-08  4:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 14:55   ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-10 17:46     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-10 20:27       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-10 21:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 22:02           ` package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Nic Ferrier
2014-11-10 23:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  2:53               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-11 11:41               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 17:17                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 17:20                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-11-11 17:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 16:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:15                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 15:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 17:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 18:04                     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-12  3:20                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-12  6:48                         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-11 17:27                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 18:20               ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 16:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-12 17:51                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 20:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 21:39                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 22:40                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 23:01                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 23:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13  1:09                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-13  5:06                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-13 14:59                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-15 17:09                             ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-15 18:20                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-16  3:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13  8:18                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-13 10:53                         ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-13 14:54                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-14 11:04                             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-14 22:56                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 18:15                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 22:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 20:21                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 13:05               ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-11 13:30             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-11 14:12               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:13                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 16:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:02                       ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-12 17:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 21:37       ` package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  1:29         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-11  2:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  2:59             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-11  3:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 12:44                 ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-11 13:31                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 11:31             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:10                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 19:36                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 20:40                     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 21:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 22:17                         ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 22:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 23:26                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13  0:21                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 20:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-08  4:29   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08 23:18     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-09  3:17       ` Stefan Monnier

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