From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#20968: 25.0.50; Be able to specify the output directory for `byte-compile-file' Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:27:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <23829743-922e-4304-8ab3-b762b8193860@default> <74y4iytdjg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83pp49zb03.fsf@gnu.org> <83egkpyvvd.fsf@gnu.org> <83si94xrcn.fsf@gnu.org> <55991ADF.8070208@yandex.ru> <83pp46wu2z.fsf@gnu.org> <5599450F.4050609@yandex.ru> <83mvzaws3s.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436113692 24113 80.91.229.3 (5 Jul 2015 16:28:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 16:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 05 18:28:03 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBmlr-0003wT-5Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 18:27:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47138 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBmlq-0001cS-7Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:27:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50873) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBmlm-0001cB-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBmlj-0006WJ-MS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:49221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZBmlj-0006Vv-GK; Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t65GRmJo006721; Sun, 5 Jul 2015 12:27:49 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BDE9D660DC; Sun, 5 Jul 2015 12:27:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83mvzaws3s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 05 Jul 2015 18:18:15 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5358=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5358> : inlines <3321> : streams <1466735> : uri <1977143> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187727 Archived-At: [ Please take out the 20968@... from the Ccs. ] > That's not the use case I was talking about. Looking up questions > already asked means using a search engine, which will find the answers > wherever they are, be it on gnu.emacs.help of stack-overflow. No, the curating (tagging, voting, and editing) makes a significant difference: you don't need to read N different messages (hopefully connected via threading) to get the overall picture. When I search (via, say, DuckDuckGo) for answers to a particular problem, I generally find that the answers I find in stackoverflow are generally more directly usable and of higher quality than what I may find elsewhere. Sometimes I can get more details and info in the developer's mailing list archive, but it takes more effort and technical expertise to find it and digest it. > I was talking about someone who wants to ask a question never > asked/answered before. In that case it mostly depends on who's available to answer the question. I think in this respect the average proficiency level on emacs.stackexchange is very much comparable to that of gnu.emacs.help. As for redirecting people to *us* (i.e. emacs-devel or debbugs), I find it neither harder nor easier on stack-foo than on gnu.emacs.help. Stefan