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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Compilation warnings in mouse.el
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:12:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtwftvb5s.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83inw9a9tl.fsf@gnu.org

>> The way I see it, defcustoms should pretty much never have :group, and
>> the group to which they belong is simply determined by the file in which
>> they occur.
> But as long as such a system isn't installed, we shouldn't behave as
> if it were.  (And what you propose is not without downsides, I think.)

Such a system has been installed ever since

    commit d3b80e9b70eaa0edb4cfc0d91543c41929fa70c0
    Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
    Date:   Sun Nov 18 01:35:12 2001 +0000

        (custom-current-group-alist): New var.
        (custom-declare-group): Set it.
        (custom-current-group): New fun.
        (custom-declare-variable, custom-handle-all-keywords):
        Use it as a default if no :group argument is specified.

>> I don't see how removing/adding defcustoms in the same file
>> would introduce problems.
> We just saw such a problem, no?

I must have missed something.  All I saw was that someone added
a defcustom in mouse.el and did not put a :group while there is no
defgroup in that file (and all other defcustoms in there have a :group).

That seems pretty far from "removing/adding defcustoms in the same file".

>> PS: Incidentally, we have two definitions of the `mouse' group
>> in cus-edit.el:
> Thanks.  Bonus points for fixing that.

Hmm... Git didn't tell me how many points I got!

BTW, I'm not really opposed to the use of :group in general.

But I'm opposed to having it be mandatory in the obvious case of
a single-file single-group package, where the :group args are just
redundant.  My above 2001 commit was designed to solve that case and
it's proved to work fine since.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-13 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-11 14:23 Compilation warnings in mouse.el Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-11 21:55 ` Stephen Berman
2016-07-12  5:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-12  8:45     ` Stephen Berman
2016-07-12 22:40     ` John Wiegley
2016-07-12 22:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13  9:28         ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-13 12:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 14:08             ` Drew Adams
2016-07-13 14:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 15:12           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-07-13 15:22             ` Drew Adams
2016-07-13 15:37               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 16:07                 ` Drew Adams
2016-07-13 15:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 15:42               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-13 16:07                 ` Drew Adams
2016-07-13 16:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 16:42                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-12 22:56     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-13 14:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-13 14:41         ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found] <<8360scdzik.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <<87zipnzvo4.fsf@gmx.net>
     [not found]   ` <<8337nfcupy.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-07-12 14:04     ` Drew Adams

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