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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 24340@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24340: insert-file-contents calls before-change-functions too late
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:48:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtwe1ngk2.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83vayhkogv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:22:24 +0300")

> I'm sorry, but I must insist.  The change I proposed is the only one
> in insert-file-contents for that use case that I'm prepared to
> consider in the current situation.  (We could also leave this bug
> open, until such time as a more thorough refactoring is done of the
> related functionalities.)  Deeper changes are exactly the can of worms
> that I don't want to open to fix just this one use case, especially
> since Emacs 25.2 will almost certainly be branched from what now is
> the master branch.  Such deeper changes were what Alan proposed in the
> first place (with a similar patch), and I already said I didn't want
> to do that.

Right: I do not intend for my patch to go to 25.2.  But for Emacs-26,
it seems there's plenty of time to find and fix any possible fallout.

> I think a cleaner way is to change the model of how we partition
> piecemeal changes, when we signal the changes and when don't, when we
> ask the user about supersession-threat, etc.  The current model is
> fundamentally flawed, if we want to use the buffer-change hooks in the
> ways that emerged from these discussions.

All I care about is for any change to the buffer to be announced by
a prior b-c-f.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-31 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-30 18:42 bug#24340: insert-file-contents calls before-change-functions too late Stefan Monnier
2016-08-30 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-30 21:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-08-31 14:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-31 14:48       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-08-31 15:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-31 17:50           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-02  1:11           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-02  7:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-03 13:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-03 14:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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