From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Interoperation between package managers (was: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 16:35:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502311122 16335 195.159.176.226 (9 Aug 2017 20:38:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:38:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 09 22:38:39 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dfXkQ-0003qp-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 22:38:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfXkW-0006w6-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 16:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfXhR-0004oR-8S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 16:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfXhO-0006Yo-2B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 16:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=60044 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfXhN-0006YF-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 16:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dfXhD-0002Ue-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 22:35:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:E09LZVLrV4LHl8vBSsfbGLH1GkA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217385 Archived-At: >> Part of "make them interoperate" may involve changing the formats >> accepted&|used by the various tools, indeed (on-disk, on-the-server, >> ...). > Note that source-based package managers such as Borg and straight.el > are fundamentally incompatible with the package.el format (or, > depending on your perspective, the package.el format is fundamentally > incompatible with source-based package managers such as Borg and > straight.el). Hmm... really? Could you expand on why that is? Stefan