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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should mode commands be idempotent?
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:30:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtvzxxb21.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2o9q5l8wv.fsf@newartisans.com

> Also, is there a motivation for introducing this new requirement, seeing as
> how we've never had such a restriction in the past?

In the case of minor modes, I think a good implementation of a minor
mode should be idempotent, because it can easily happen that a minor
mode is enabled twice via different hooks, e.g.:

    (add-hook 'text-mode-hook #'visual-line-mode)
    (add-hook 'xml-mode-hook  #'visual-line-mode)

If you know that xml-mode runs text-mode-hook, you can drop the second
line, but it's good if the second line is just redundant rather
than harmful (after all, some people prefer xml-mode not to run
text-mode-hook).

For major modes, I don't know what is the intention exactly, because I'm
not sure exactly what kind of non-idempotence there is out there.
I think for major modes a more significant issue is to make sure that

    (with-temp-buffer (insert text) (funcall mode))

doesn't do anything undesirable (and currently, we're pretty far from
having such a guarantee, although we do have code like the above at
various places).


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-20 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19 19:58 Should mode commands be idempotent? Philipp Stephani
2017-09-19 22:10 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-19 22:29   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20  7:24     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-20 14:52       ` John Wiegley
2017-09-20 22:30         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-09-20 23:05           ` Drew Adams
2017-10-08 15:09         ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-20 22:25       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-23  8:16         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-23 14:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-23 20:37             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 22:58 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-20  3:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20 17:52     ` Drew Adams
2017-09-21  1:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-21  5:22         ` Drew Adams
2017-09-21 18:28           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]         ` <<9f11a3c6-b113-4bf6-9dab-f894b2ad77b5@default>
     [not found]           ` <<E1dv6D1-0006Jr-Fl@fencepost.gnu.org>
2017-09-22 15:54             ` Drew Adams
2017-09-23  0:39               ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-23  8:05               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-24 17:26                 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-25  7:03                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-25 13:57                     ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26  0:36                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-26  3:30                         ` John Wiegley
2017-09-26 17:55                           ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26 18:01                             ` John Wiegley
2017-09-26 18:50                               ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26 18:54                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-10-08 15:28                                   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-10-08 19:04                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-10  2:10                                       ` John Wiegley
2017-12-21 20:49                                       ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-22  2:20                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-10 23:15                                   ` Herring, Davis
     [not found]               ` <<E1dvYUB-0007na-Mx@fencepost.gnu.org>
2017-09-24 17:26                 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-25 22:06                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-19 23:50 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-20  3:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20 13:01 ` Richard Stallman

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