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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Message's text-properties in *Messages*
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:41:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtvqyb7p7.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83a7sqcmnw.fsf@gnu.org

>> - Why would arbitrary Lisp code be dangerous (I understand that message_dolog
>>   can be called from within redisplay, but redisplay runs Elisp code
>>   at several places, so "from redisplay" doesn't inherently imply you
>>   can't run Elisp code).
> When Lisp code is called from redisplay, we always do that via
> safe_call.  Anything else is not safe, AFAIR.

I see.  This doesn't answer all the questions, tho:

- The current code still does

    call0 (intern ("messages-buffer-mode"));

  hence doesn't use safe_call here.  This is likely a bug (introduced
  when we added messages-buffer-mode) and it hasn't bitten us simply
  because it's run rarely enough (only after you kill the *Messages*
  buffer) and by default it probably doesn't do anything dangerous, so
  to trigger this bug, we'd need a "perfect storm" (i.e. set
  a nasty messages-buffer-mode-hook, then kill *Messages*, then arrange
  for the next message to come from within the redisplay code).

- AFAICT message_dolog avoids running before/after change functions, so
  the comment about the GC being sometimes called because we run
  before/after change hooks seems odd.

- If after/before change functions do end up called, are they really
  called via safe_call?  I don't see any trace of that.

- Would let-binding inhibit-foo-hooks good enough to avoid running
  Elisp code unsafely?


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-23 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-21 17:10 edebug: regrettable loss of information in Emacs 26.1 when printing a variable's value Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-21 17:47 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-21 18:23   ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-21 18:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-21 21:20     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-22 16:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-21 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-21 19:04   ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-05-21 18:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-21 21:24   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-22  0:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-23 17:28       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-23 16:03     ` Message's text-properties in *Messages* (was: edebug: regrettable loss of information in Emacs 26.1 when printing a variable's value) Stefan Monnier
2018-05-23 16:10       ` Drew Adams
2018-05-23 16:46         ` Message's text-properties in *Messages* Stefan Monnier
2018-05-26  0:48           ` John Wiegley
2018-05-26 15:52             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-26 19:50               ` Amin Bandali
2018-05-27 14:36                 ` John Wiegley
2018-05-27 21:28                   ` Amin Bandali
2018-05-23 17:22       ` Message's text-properties in *Messages* (was: edebug: regrettable loss of information in Emacs 26.1 when printing a variable's value) Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-23 17:41         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-05-23 18:07           ` Message's text-properties in *Messages* Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-30 17:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-30 19:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-30 19:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-31  2:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-31  2:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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