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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2020 19:41:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtv2ysa6p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200308193048.GB4832@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 8 Mar 2020 19:30:48 +0000")

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> .  This complained about c-syntactic-context being unbound, so I
> tried:
>
>    M-: (let ((c-syntactic-context (c-guess-basic-syntax)))
>    (c-align-cpp-indent-to-body))
>
> , and was puzzled that c-syntactic-context was _still_ unbound.  So I
> checked the spelling, and was more puzzled.  Eventually I used setq,
> which worked, but caused me further problems later on in my Emacs
> session.

Indeed `c-syntactic-context` is only declared as dynamically scoped in
some files but not globally, for some reason.

It's rather unusual.  The more common pattern is to write

    (defvar c-syntactic-context nil)

which would not make you bump into this problem.

> Furthermore, c-syntactic-context is explicitly declared a dynamic
> variable by a defvar form.

But a `defvar` with no 2nd arg (i.e. no default value), which means it
only affects the current file (not sure if this is part of the reason
why you have `(defvar c-syntactic-context)` both `cc-cmds.el` and in
`cc-vars.el`, but it would explain it tho the `(cc-bytecomp-defvar
c-syntactic-context)` in `cc-vars.el` makes the whole situation much
more murky).

> THIS IS A MAJOR BACKWARD STEP FOR EMACS!!!!

;-)

> Looking at the git log, it appears this change was made nearly a year ago.

Indeed, it's a wonder you managed to survive with such a majorly broken
Emacs for so long ;-)


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-08 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-07 11:29 lexical-binding is turned on in more use cases Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 17:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 17:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 17:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 18:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 18:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 19:30             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-08 19:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 19:56                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-08 20:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-08 20:15                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-11  2:59                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-11 12:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 23:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-08 23:41               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-03-09 20:10                 ` John Wiegley
2020-03-09 21:18                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 21:27                     ` Drew Adams
2020-03-09 21:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 22:30                     ` John Wiegley
2020-03-10 19:13                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 19:49                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-10 20:16                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 20:54                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-07 23:28                             ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2020-03-10 20:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 21:02                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 21:02                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 21:33                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11  3:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 21:14                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-10 21:53                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 23:41                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11  1:36                             ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-11  2:02                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-13  0:46                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-11  3:06                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-11 12:47                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-13  2:32                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-03-11  2:11                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11 22:39                           ` John Wiegley
2020-03-09 20:22                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-09 22:05                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 18:41                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 19:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 19:41                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 20:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-10 20:44                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-10 21:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-11  3:06                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-08 19:39             ` Stefan Monnier

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