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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: "whether the global keymap C-x 4 will be replaced by a command,"
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:48:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtuya2m1q.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a02f94a-e28c-4f5d-8b46-df4c9484ccca@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:41:09 -0700 (PDT)")

>> > This means that after binding the current ctl-x-4-map in Emacs core
>> > to the other-window command, 'C-h k C-x 4' will display the help for
>> > that command, not for the whole sequence 'C-h k C-x 4 C-f'.
>> 
>> I don't think we can/should make `C-h k` read all of `C-x 4 C-f`,
>> indeed.  But maybe we could make the following work:
>> `C-x 4 C-h k C-f`.
>
> Quelle horreur !
>
> Farther & farther from Occam - more & more complex.

I don't see what's more or less complex about it.
With other-frame-window `C-x 4` is a (prefix) command.
So just like `C-h k C-u` gives you help about the `C-u` binding,
`C-h k C-x 4` naturally gives you help about the `C-x 4` binding.

So if you're interested in the `C-f` binding available after you hit
`C-x 4`, it's only natural to use `C-x 4 C-h k C-f` (and not only it's
natural, but it's the only sane option unless we break the `C-h k C-x 4`
case).

> We already have `C-x 4 C-h', which shows you
> every `C-x 4' key sequence and its command, with
> a link to its doc.  Que demande le peuple ?

You're talking about the current `C-x 4` which is a keymap.
I'm talking about the case when we've change `C-x 4` to be a prefix
command, as provided by other-frame-window.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-14 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1juSI3-0005ai-6j@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <83ft9woo68.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-07-13  2:52   ` "whether the global keymap ‘C-x 4’ will be replaced by a command," Richard Stallman
2020-07-13 23:58     ` "whether the global keymap C-x 4 " Juri Linkov
2020-07-14  4:19       ` Drew Adams
2020-07-14  5:55       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-14 14:41         ` Drew Adams
2020-07-14 14:48           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-07-14 15:28             ` Drew Adams
2020-07-14 15:35           ` John Yates
2020-07-14 14:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-14 15:15           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-14 16:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-15  4:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-15 14:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-15 23:54                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-16  4:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-16 22:57                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-17  2:56                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-17  0:56                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-14 22:27         ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-14 22:55           ` Drew Adams
2020-07-15  4:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-16  3:21           ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-16 15:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-16 23:05             ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-17  2:10               ` Drew Adams
2020-07-18  1:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-18 16:23                   ` Sean Whitton
2020-07-18 17:00                     ` Drew Adams
2020-07-19  2:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-19 15:28                       ` Drew Adams
2020-07-21  0:22                       ` Sean Whitton
2020-07-18  1:54               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-18 23:21                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-19  0:11                   ` Drew Adams
2020-07-19  3:38                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-19 22:07                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-20  3:09                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-20 20:50                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-07-20  2:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-20  3:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-15  3:32         ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-19 13:00           ` Barry Fishman
2020-07-19 15:38             ` Drew Adams
2020-07-19 16:20               ` Barry Fishman
2020-07-19 17:45                 ` Drew Adams

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