From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: xterm [menu] key definition Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20210819024728.kgnf6jmpakqdto4p.ref@Ergus> <20210819024728.kgnf6jmpakqdto4p@Ergus> <87mtp71i4s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20210824164036.caohbap24666ij35@Ergus> <20210824232033.ksesfe3ewflbsv63@Ergus> <83o89lvju4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37067"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, juri@linkov.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 00:43:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ1cD-0009QD-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 00:43:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39514 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ1cB-00031N-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ1az-0002Le-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:42:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:47656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ1aw-0003Cs-25; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:42:08 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B8EB510019F; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id ED355100040; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:42:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1629931320; bh=VEuhu1B7LsEYDNATWGzsPS/rPkZoSaiNCux3bTRM6G4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=dXIVdVaZZD1LNBVM3uoOG1OAIKGZf280e7TV1cwuHt4ndS5BN6M4Nya05DGAag2Fd G8DVAGUpB8A/X8jBuHtqRXtYo4QU7nQ7DgWU5mm01V6a+MyArpjrB0APZDSl38jrFG mm7Y4k7b19D4NQ+VF7GDhuuGKaA364UMqu71vrqXFVmTgy4oaP+rBp8GASHgtxDb6r BkjEu/DFVorbh8rLIKyTF/2v8yzFJhFXSdOSiANaq8Z9D1FBBFdmt4Ka33qyg/rqOW OnITwnCqzANqrFrhVO9N4/ieVIbMbFsfcIJ8DP09CRZK7tmSDx8VzifKfMyPofinZ/ JR9onSBnizhCQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.244.135]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0F0912044C; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:42:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83o89lvju4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:34:43 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272994 Archived-At: > Yes. Which is why I wouldn't recommend touching it with a 3-mile pole. I took it as a dare and thus pushed Ergus's proposed change (duly decorated with a bit of the story behind it). It's true that it may break someone's habits somewhere but I think the new binding at least has the virtue of having a documented justification for it, and it may prove beneficial to a few other users. Given the amount of discussion it raised, it feels like it deserves a NEWS entry, yet when I tried to write it I ended up with: ** The escape sequence '\e[29~' in xterm is now mapped to 'menu' Xterm sends this sequence for both 'F16' and 'Menu' keys. It used to be mapped to 'print' but we couldn't find a terminal that uses this sequence for any kind of 'Print' key. which seems so obscure that I'm not sure it's more helpful than harmful. Opinion? Stefan