From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA and built-in packages Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2021 13:50:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87pmrlxe1m.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1c0t2vm.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31111"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 01 19:59:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhcWY-0007sY-73 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 19:59:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37682 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhcWW-00060X-VV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:59:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhbRi-0002Ib-K8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 13:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:14162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhbRe-0008EL-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 13:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0B4AC1003B4; Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 007AB100135; Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:50:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1635789003; bh=AoCemvPsZvjSAjSthHMikAloDw+rQOUoh1JYgwHMaBM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=MgH9i96lLApfgMj1q6KSY0U464bPuQiUJ5xFxUB1pLGcMzoyBAragy3TY7DU4Sr6t 8Y2svVOXIYmhKrGmYiENmwpUxcebzKLrp6UYuReHruFbWRa8zIZqkKKYXU9rrDgaYR jFJUcux1BASyIw+22SO9gZnQ0eK4/opDEnMC8qmwYDjn6uc0JJ8M9cXtN+bF/4CeBC 4KoxdDMdEGuYmrdIgWGoz4mVNj0CAfP/QWtMTsFRWZXUPwgLINIgwZhxs3eQ/MKZDJ inZYWdhT9GdeAaBlVKRIc2GNmaaA7mPRS9FutJLtWtGqNd1fAQQHY/7dYpPQ7Hmw/t YVAI84iR/KzPw== Original-Received: from alfajor (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD2BC1204A6; Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:50:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87r1c0t2vm.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:35:41 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278414 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-11-01 14:35:41] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> It should, yes. > Cool; I was having some problems here when working on a built-in package > that I also had installed from ELPA, but --- >> The info is stored in `package--builtin-versions` which is populated >> from the autoloads information in `lisp/loaddefs.el`, which is >> generated by `lisp/emacs-lisp/autoload.el`: > --- so I guess my problem was that I hadn't bumped the version number in > the built-in version and/or hadn't regenerated the loaddefs? Could be. Our makefile doesn't automatically refresh `lisp/loaddefs.el`, IIRC. IIRC a known problem that can happen is when the package is preloaded (e.g. `cl-generic`) in which case `autoload.el` skips it altogether, which is why `cl-generic.el` and `nadvice.el` have an explicit (push (purecopy '( 1 0)) package--builtin-versions) Of course, there might be other problems, Stefan