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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 70136@debbugs.gnu.org, arstoffel@gmail.com
Subject: bug#70136: 30.0.50; compilation-mode [was: comint-mode] doesn't call hack-dir-local-variables-non-file-buffer
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 22:58:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvttk0zoyb.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86a5lsiuo8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 17 Apr 2024 05:34:31 +0300")

>> FWIW, back in 2010 (commit 8117868f0ce6) when we added support for
>> dir-locals to non-file buffers, we did it without even a config var to
>> turn it off.
> That's not the same.  Also, we did quite a few things wrong regarding
> backward compatibility over the years, and I don't want us to repeat
> past mistakes.

I can relate to that, but I can't remember bug reports (nor questions
from confused users in other channels) when we made that change, so
I don't see why we should consider that specific past choice to be
a "past mistake".
Also, I'm not seeing why "That's not the same".

> Like I said: I'm okay with this change provided that it is opt-in.

The problem with that is discovery.  Should we add a message like
"ignoring dir-locals.  See obey-dir-local-variables-in-all-non-file-buffers"?

And of course a related question is what kind of granularity to use for
the "opt-in"?  Will we add a new var every time we notice another (set
of) buffers for which we should apply dir-local vars, or would it be OK
to have a single variable?

If it's OK to have a single var: why should this var not
apply to diff-mode, log-edit-mode, ...?
Or should this var contain a list of modes which allow it, so we can
make it default to (diff-mode log-edit-mode ...)?  And maybe also allow
a t value?

And since this var is needed only to avoid breaking backward
compatibility, it would be desirable to have a plan to get rid of it in
the longer term.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-17  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02  5:54 bug#70136: 30.0.50; comint-mode doesn't call hack-dir-local-variables-non-file-buffer Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-02 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-02 14:03   ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-02 15:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-14  9:16       ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-14 10:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-14  9:27       ` bug#70136: 30.0.50; compilation-mode [was: comint-mode] " Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-14 10:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-15 17:10           ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-15 18:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-16 21:49               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-17  2:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17  2:58                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-04-17  8:31                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-17 13:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 13:29                         ` bug#70436: 30.0.50; Fail to enter the debugger when using prin1 (instead of cl-prin1) Bruno Barbier
2024-04-20  8:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-20  8:28                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-20 15:24                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-25 16:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-27 10:29                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2024-04-27 14:45                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-20 13:57                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-17 12:36                     ` bug#70136: 30.0.50; compilation-mode [was: comint-mode] doesn't call hack-dir-local-variables-non-file-buffer Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 12:59                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-17 13:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 17:55                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-17 18:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 18:24                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-16  6:33             ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-16 12:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17  8:16               ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-04-17 13:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02  6:17         ` Juri Linkov

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