From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:38:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvslfn13lp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1GtZbi-0003ln-Ip@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 10 Dec 2006 20\:05\:26 -0500")
[ Expanding on my previous message ]
> Could we revert the change to beginning-of-defun instead?
> It seems clearly incorrect for beginning-of-defun to ignore
> open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start.
[ The change I'd like to revert only influences the case where
defun-prompt-regexp is nil so the non-nil case is implicitly outside of
this discussion]
Does it?
The docstring doesn't mention anything about it. And really, when
defun-prompt-regexp is nil, then beginning-of-defun considers that "defun
starts when there is a char with open-parenthesis syntax at the beginning of
a line". So if open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start is nil, it's hard to
figure out what should be considered as a defun start.
It's kind of like saying "I won't tell you what it is, I'll just tell you
that it's not what you think".
Note that open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start is only used in back_comment
in syntax.c (where we should remove it by making back_comment use
syntax-ppss) and in beginning-of-defun where it was only used to add the
empty string to defun-prompt-regexp.
> For what other reason does C mode set open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start?
Maybe because in C defuns do not start with a paren (neither in column 0 nor
elsewhere)?
Or maybe because Alan uses beginning-of-defun for something for which it was
not designed, and thus ends up having to work around beginning-of-defun's
functionality by first setting open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start and
defun-prompt-regexp to some usually unused combination and then putting the
code he really wants to use in beginning-of-defun (whereas he should just
use this code directly without going through beginning-of-defun)?
[ I know this sounds like I'm accusing Alan of plotting. I'm not. ]
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-11 4:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-12-04 21:17 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-06 12:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-06 16:31 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-07 4:59 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 17:46 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-09 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-11 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2006-12-12 16:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-12 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 0:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 1:11 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-10 9:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 14:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 15:13 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 20:30 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-13 21:29 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 1:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 7:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 10:47 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 18:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 20:21 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 20:35 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 0:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-15 10:35 ` Johan Bockgård
2006-12-14 21:53 ` What `opic0ids' really is [was: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.] Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 7:32 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw martin rudalics
2006-12-15 19:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:20 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 18:36 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for c-basic-common-init Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 22:59 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-18 0:06 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 18:27 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:00 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:33 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 19:59 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:10 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 21:26 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 22:43 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:40 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 4:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 10:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:26 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:59 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 11:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-18 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 22:11 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:37 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 22:21 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 17:29 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 18:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 22:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:03 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 10:45 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 21:39 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-14 7:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 7:51 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-15 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 9:18 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 7:23 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 7:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 8:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-08 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 10:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 11:58 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 14:30 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-12-11 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-06 20:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-07 5:07 ` Stefan Monnier
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