From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: improve rmail's MIME handling Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:41:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83r5e874ab.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290782574 28007 80.91.229.12 (26 Nov 2010 14:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 26 15:42:49 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PLzVe-0003Ac-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:42:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36350 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PLzVe-0003eT-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50194 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PLzVY-0003eO-Nk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:42:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PLzVX-00069K-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:42:40 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:45721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PLzVX-000620-Oy; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oAQEfhno006822; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:41:43 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id ACBA6A8491; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:41:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83r5e874ab.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:44:28 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3690=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133166 Archived-At: > Why is this a good idea, especially on the Emacs 23 branch, in the > middle of a pretest? Nowadays, a mail reader which doesn't handle MIME out of the box counts as broken for me. > Previously, Rmail would never do anything with attachments without my > say-so, and thus was one of the safest MUAs on Earth. Why change > that now? Because it was felt to be long overdue. > Of course, if other Rmail users think we should make it t by default, > I can always customize it back, so if I'm the only one who cares, > let's leave it at t. While I think handling MIME out of the box is indispensable, I also think it should be easy to view the raw message easily, so I hope there's a command that lets you see the raw message, turning off all MIME processing. FWIW, I couldn't find such a command in Gnus :-(. Stefan