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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 9244@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:48:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsjozv3q3.fsf-monnier+INBOX@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3obzny57e.fsf@stories.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:43:33 +0200")

>> Occasionally an NNTP (or IMAP) server refuses to answer.
>> In Emacs-23, Gnus then prompted me something like "Unable to open
>> server foo, go offline? "
>> In Emacs-24, this has disappeared at the server is just marked offline
>> silently (maybe there's a warning message, but if so I never get to
>> notice it).
> Yes, it's marked "denied" if you can't open it.

It's set to `offline' here, not `denied'.

>> Can the prompting be re-introduced, please?
> No, the go-offline thing didn't make any sense in most situations.  The
> offline/online thing is a global Gnus thing, and if (say) your IMAP
> connection to Gmail fails, it makes no sense to put Gnus offline with
> respect to the other servers.

I totally agree and that's indeed the problem I have: Gnus does put my
IMAP connection in `offline' state where it shouldn't.

Actually for me the prompt made a lot of sense: sometimes the connection
failure was really just transient and I want Gnus to re-try connecting,
whereas at other times the connection fails for good reasons (e.g. it's
a server that I can only access from some places and not from others, or
only when the VPN is activated, or it is down for maintenance, ...) and
I want to mark it offline so it doesn't prevent me from accessing
other servers.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-18  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-04 21:20 bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Stefan Monnier
2011-08-17 23:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-18  2:48   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-09-10 19:29     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-10 21:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-11  0:17         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-06 23:39           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-07  0:31             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-24 21:54               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-26 17:48                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-26 19:28                   ` Ted Zlatanov

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