From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cl-pushnew and other functions Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340988824 20124 80.91.229.3 (29 Jun 2012 16:53:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:53:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 29 18:53:44 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SkeRy-0007WL-BW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:53:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36496 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SkeRy-0003JY-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SkeRs-0003IP-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SkeRq-0000Vk-WB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:45915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SkeRq-0000Vd-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5TGrMuK016121; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:28 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A0198AE50E; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:53:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:38:06 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4265=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4265> : streams <776172> : uri <1152503> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151296 Archived-At: > I think the basic function in CL should just be considered part of the Emacs > Lisp language, We simply disagree. But at least now you can use all cl-* functions (like cl-remove-if) in Elisp packages bundled with Emacs (tho we don't want to preload cl-lib, so those functions cannot be used in preloaded files). > the same way that we have dolist in subr.el now. Actually dolist and cl-dolist are not the same. Stefan