* About "consing"
@ 2013-02-28 14:23 Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-28 14:43 ` Doug Lewan
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From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2013-02-28 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
In the doc string of the function `memory-use-counts':
Return a list of counters that measure how much consing there has been.
I don't know what the "consing" means here. I only know that `cons' is often
used to add a single element to the front of a list. But this seems to be
irrelevant to the topic.
And in (info "(elisp) Garbage Collection"):
-- Function: memory-use-counts
This returns a list of numbers that count the number of objects
created in this Emacs session.
Does "consing" mean creating an object here? Thanks.
--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao
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* RE: About "consing"
2013-02-28 14:23 About "consing" Xue Fuqiao
@ 2013-02-28 14:43 ` Doug Lewan
2013-02-28 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Doug Lewan @ 2013-02-28 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xue Fuqiao, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
You've got it. That's exactly what consing means.
It's actually more general than the use that you've mentioned.
A CONS cell has two parts: (1) its CAR (a value) and (2) its CDR (a pointer to the next CONS cell). (The names are historical. I don't know if their etymologies matter anymore.) A list is built from CONS cells; the CAR is the first element and the CDR is the rest of the list (which is itself a list).
I know that's a little abstract without motivation. See the emacs lisp info on Lists (which has a section on CONS cells). The section on Building Lists has a picture that shows the connection between CONS cells and lists.
,Douglas
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+dougl=shubertticketing.com@gnu.org
> [mailto:help-gnu-emacs-bounces+dougl=shubertticketing.com@gnu.org] On
> Behalf Of Xue Fuqiao
> Sent: Thursday, 2013 February 28 09:23
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: About "consing"
>
> In the doc string of the function `memory-use-counts':
>
> Return a list of counters that measure how much consing there has
> been.
>
> I don't know what the "consing" means here. I only know that `cons' is
> often
> used to add a single element to the front of a list. But this seems to
> be
> irrelevant to the topic.
>
> And in (info "(elisp) Garbage Collection"):
>
> -- Function: memory-use-counts
> This returns a list of numbers that count the number of objects
> created in this Emacs session.
>
> Does "consing" mean creating an object here? Thanks.
>
> --
> Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao
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* Re: About "consing"
2013-02-28 14:23 About "consing" Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-28 14:43 ` Doug Lewan
@ 2013-02-28 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-28 15:05 ` Kevin Rodgers
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-02-28 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Return a list of counters that measure how much consing there has been.
Here, "consing" means "cons"truct"ing", i.e. calls to constructors.
> Does "consing" mean creating an object here? Thanks.
Yup,
Stefan
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* Re: About "consing"
2013-02-28 14:23 About "consing" Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-28 14:43 ` Doug Lewan
2013-02-28 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-02-28 15:05 ` Kevin Rodgers
2013-02-28 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2013-02-28 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 2/28/13 7:23 AM, Xue Fuqiao wrote:
> In the doc string of the function `memory-use-counts':
>
> Return a list of counters that measure how much consing there has been.
>
> I don't know what the "consing" means here. I only know that `cons' is often
> used to add a single element to the front of a list. But this seems to be
> irrelevant to the topic.
>
> And in (info "(elisp) Garbage Collection"):
>
> -- Function: memory-use-counts
> This returns a list of numbers that count the number of objects
> created in this Emacs session.
>
> Does "consing" mean creating an object here? Thanks.
Yes: allocating a cons cell.
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
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* Re: About "consing"
2013-02-28 14:23 About "consing" Xue Fuqiao
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2013-02-28 15:05 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2013-02-28 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-02-28 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:23:12 +0800
> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>
>
> In the doc string of the function `memory-use-counts':
>
> Return a list of counters that measure how much consing there has been.
>
> I don't know what the "consing" means here.
Always try the help features first. "i consing RET" will land you
where this terminology is described.
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* Re: About "consing"
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@ 2013-02-28 16:10 ` Barry Margolin
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From: Barry Margolin @ 2013-02-28 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
In article <mailman.21101.1362063945.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/28/13 7:23 AM, Xue Fuqiao wrote:
> > In the doc string of the function `memory-use-counts':
> >
> > Return a list of counters that measure how much consing there has been.
> >
> > I don't know what the "consing" means here. I only know that `cons' is
> > often
> > used to add a single element to the front of a list. But this seems to be
> > irrelevant to the topic.
> >
> > And in (info "(elisp) Garbage Collection"):
> >
> > -- Function: memory-use-counts
> > This returns a list of numbers that count the number of objects
> > created in this Emacs session.
> >
> > Does "consing" mean creating an object here? Thanks.
>
> Yes: allocating a cons cell.
And arrays, buffers, etc.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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