From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Carson Chittom <carson@wistly.net>, 15095@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15095: 24.2; mail items in Tools menu confusing to new users
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:10:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsiychz0d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837gfop2r7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:05:00 +0300")
>> This bug report is regarding the usability of the menu system. The
>> "Tools" menu has three options for mail/news:
>>
>> - Read Net News (Gnus)
>> - Read Mail (RMAIL)
>> - Send Mail (with Gnus Message) C-x m
>>
>> Any user new to Emacs would, reasonably in my view, ask, "Why do I read
>> Net News with Gnus and send mail with Gnus Message (is that different
>> from just Gnus?) but read mail with RMAIL?" My recommendation is to
>> eliminate a specific "Send Mail" menu item, since I think most people
>> think of reading and sending mail together as a single task. We'd then
>> have two items, something like:
>>
>> - Read/Send Mail & Net News (Gnus)
>> - Read/Send Mail (RMAIL)
I think "Send Mail" should be replaced with "Compose new mail". Then it
makes more sense to have a separate entry for it.
And the (Gnus) and (RMAIL) annotations should be removed from the
menu item. They could be moved to the :help-echo thingy, but they need
to make it clear that it's just the currently configured "backend".
> That's not really the issue here. The real problem is that the "Gnus"
> part of "Gnus Message" is misleading: message.el is a package that was
Indeed, the name should just be "Message".
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-14 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-14 16:48 bug#15095: 24.2; mail items in Tools menu confusing to new users Carson Chittom
2013-08-14 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-14 19:10 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-08-14 20:22 ` Drew Adams
2013-08-16 6:51 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-14 19:49 ` Carson Chittom
2013-08-15 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-15 12:02 ` Carson Chittom
2013-08-15 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-15 17:23 ` Carson Chittom
2013-08-15 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-15 20:42 ` Stefan Monnier
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