From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428871610 27038 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2015 20:46:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Vasilij Schneidermann , Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel To: Jorgen =?windows-1252?Q?Sch=E4fer?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 12 22:46:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YhOm8-0000xj-Ch for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:46:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46238 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhOm7-0000x2-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhOm4-0000wc-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhOm0-0004kl-Vg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:48614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhOm0-0004kf-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t3CKkTVQ022796; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:29 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8739EAE114; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:46:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: ("Jorgen =?windows-1252?Q?Sch=E4fer=22's?= message of "Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:45:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5274=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5274> : inlines <2686> : streams <1421408> : uri <1905074> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185359 Archived-At: > I have to admit that this seems like a pretty niche use case, though. Out of > curiosity, why would you not want the autoloads of an installed package be > loaded at startup? What workflow makes this useful? A typical example is Auctex which by default overrides the default tex-mode (tho it comes with a configuration variable you can set to prevent this override, but there again: this config var needs to be set before package-initialize). Stefan