From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:07:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150831061236.27796.57762@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55E3F434.2060507@yandex.ru> <55E496DC.1030608@cs.ucla.edu> <877foas9jh.fsf@gmail.com> <20150901190014.GB1997@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441166860 25379 80.91.229.3 (2 Sep 2015 04:07:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 04:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Dmitry Gutov , Oleh Krehel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 02 06:07:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWzKc-0005cd-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 06:07:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33250 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWzKc-0006Zv-C4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWzKN-0006YU-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWzKI-0003Cr-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:54572) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWzKI-00037f-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:07:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CVDQA731xV//rn92hcgxCEAsEVh0sEAgKBPDoTAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSINwjPIwEBCAIgizqFBQeELQEEnxeDa5ICI4I7gVkigngBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0CVDQA731xV//rn92hcgxCEAsEVh0sEAgKBPDoTAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSINwjPIwEBCAIgizqFBQeELQEEnxeDa5ICI4I7gVkigngBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="162126794" Original-Received: from 104-247-231-250.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([104.247.231.250]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 02 Sep 2015 00:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C823EAE064; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 00:07:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20150901190014.GB1997@acm.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:00:14 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189444 Archived-At: > Just to emphasize that `...' quoting is not at all ugly on my terminal - > in fact, it's rather elegant. Indeed, the font I see in my Linux console renders them OK (pre-XFree86-4 style), but I think you're sadly in a minority. > However, using curly quotes is problematic. I run on a Linux > virtual terminal. Curly quotes render just fine in my Linux console. So it looks like you're in an even smaller minority. > So, PLEASE can we have adequate configurability, so that the user can > decide for herself what's ugly, and whether it needs "fixing". My request here is to figure out what *kind* of configurability is best. Not whether configurability is desired. But you're not very forthcoming with information about the concrete problems you see with curly quotes, so we're likely not going to be able to provide the best kind of customizability for you. Stefan