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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9dd95bf: * lisp/emacs-lisp/pcase.el (pcase--u1): Fix bignums
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:37:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsh0sec3u.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83pnvwo7i3.fsf@gnu.org

>> >> Would you feel the same if `pcase` always used `equal` and the
>> >> optimization to `eql` were performed in the byte-compiler instead?
>> > I don't know, and it's not really relevant, is it?
>> It is: the use of `eq` or `eql` here is an optimization which pcase
>> performs only because the compiler doesn't do it.
> I disagree.  We describe our code, not what the compiler produces out
> of it.

Here I disagree: the pcase doc does not describe the generated code, it
only describes the resulting behavior.

>> >   ‘KEYWORD’
>> >   ‘INTEGER’
>> >   ‘STRING’
>> >        Matches if EXPVAL is equal to the literal object.  The equality
>> >        predicate depends on the type of the object; e.g., symbols are
>> >        compared using 'eq', and strings using 'equal'.
>> 
>> I think we should say here that the semantics is that of `equal` and not
>> that of `eq` (or `=` or whatever else).
>> 
>> The above would allow `pcase` to use `eq` for integers.
>
> Where does it say something that has that effect?

`eq` is a notion of equality, so "is equal to the literal object" is
a valid description even if we use `eq`.  Futhermore the subsequent text
makes it clear that `pcase` would be free to use whichever notion of
equality it deems appropriate since "The equality predicate depends on
the type of the object".

>> IOW if pcase uses `eq` on integers (as it did until yesterday) and
>> some code uses pcase to match a bignum, the above would let us say
>> that the bug is in the pcase use rather than in the pcase
>> implementation.
>> 
>> Compared to the current doc, it also leaves it unclear whether 1.0 would
>> match the '1 pattern.
>
> So you now agree to describe in detail what predicate is used for each
> data type?

Yes, that's what I've done: `equal` is the predicate used.  ;-)


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-26 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-26  9:03 [Emacs-diffs] master 9dd95bf: * lisp/emacs-lisp/pcase.el (pcase--u1): Fix bignums Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 15:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 16:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 17:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 18:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 19:00           ` Paul Eggert
2018-10-26 19:37             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 19:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 19:37             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-10-27 12:15             ` Andy Moreton

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